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Re: How to play Hopeless 2 (Shockwave 3D games) in 2017

Posted: 08 Dec 2019, 12:26
by Remus
Leftoz wrote: i cant find a download link for explorer 11 32bit for windows 10 only for windows 7
https://support.microsoft.com/en-ca/hel ... xplorer-11
:wink:

Re: How to play Hopeless 2 (Shockwave 3D games) in 2017

Posted: 08 Dec 2019, 12:32
by Leftoz
Remus wrote:
Leftoz wrote: i cant find a download link for explorer 11 32bit for windows 10 only for windows 7
https://support.microsoft.com/en-ca/hel ... xplorer-11
:wink:
thanks, but i just tested my mother's laptop from 2006 and it loads the website on internet explorer 8, i am trying to use a virtual machine just to play hopeless 2 the reason i wont play in the laptop is because it has 5fps lol. my brother made an account he is called itzparty and we are trying to play now im trying to use the virtual machine with windows 7 and download IE8 there, i will also try the link you sent me

Re: How to play Hopeless 2 (Shockwave 3D games) in 2017

Posted: 08 Dec 2019, 12:34
by Remus
How do I access Internet explorer 32 bit on windows 10 (64 bit):
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/ie/ ... 571d8008a8
:cheers:

Re: How to play Hopeless 2 (Shockwave 3D games) in 2017

Posted: 08 Dec 2019, 12:38
by Leftoz
Remus wrote:How do I access Internet explorer 32 bit on windows 10 (64 bit):
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/ie/ ... 571d8008a8
:cheers:
i tried this method yesterday as i was searching on how to use IE11 32 bit instead of 64 i tried it but didnt work, now i will send you some screenshots of what is happening

Re: How to play Hopeless 2 (Shockwave 3D games) in 2017

Posted: 08 Dec 2019, 12:44
by Remus
The program you need is located here:

"C:\Program Files (x86)\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe"

:wink:

Re: How to play Hopeless 2 (Shockwave 3D games) in 2017

Posted: 08 Dec 2019, 12:51
by Leftoz
Remus wrote:The program you need is located here:

"C:\Program Files (x86)\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe"

:wink:
how can i upload screenshots to show you?

Re: How to play Hopeless 2 (Shockwave 3D games) in 2017

Posted: 08 Dec 2019, 12:56
by Remus
And here is the latest Shockwave full installer on Windows 10:
http://necromanthus.com/Games/ShockWave ... taller.zip
:cheers:

Re: How to play Hopeless 2 (Shockwave 3D games) in 2017

Posted: 08 Dec 2019, 12:58
by Leftoz
Remus wrote:And here is the latest Shockwave full installer on Windows 10:
http://necromanthus.com/Games/ShockWave ... taller.zip
:cheers:
Access Denied !

(method not allowed)

by the way check the private messages i sent you its the screenshots

Re: How to play Hopeless 2 (Shockwave 3D games) in 2017

Posted: 08 Dec 2019, 13:01
by Remus
Leftoz wrote: Access Denied !

(method not allowed)

by the way check the private messages i sent you its the screenshots
You have Windows (firewall) issues!

Re: How to play Hopeless 2 (Shockwave 3D games) in 2017

Posted: 08 Dec 2019, 13:02
by Leftoz
Remus wrote:
Leftoz wrote: Access Denied !

(method not allowed)

by the way check the private messages i sent you its the screenshots
You have Windows (firewall) issues!
what do you mean? how can i fix it?

Re: How to play Hopeless 2 (Shockwave 3D games) in 2017

Posted: 08 Dec 2019, 13:03
by Remus
Another option for Windows 10 is Firefox 52.9.0 ESR 32bit:
https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/firefox ... 9.0esr.exe

Re: How to play Hopeless 2 (Shockwave 3D games) in 2017

Posted: 08 Dec 2019, 13:05
by Leftoz
Remus wrote:Another option for Windows 10 is Firefox 52.9.0 ESR 32bit:
https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/firefox ... 9.0esr.exe
i tried this method!!!! but firefox auto updates to the latest version even if i turn off autoupdates :shock:

Re: How to play Hopeless 2 (Shockwave 3D games) in 2017

Posted: 08 Dec 2019, 13:09
by Leftoz
Leftoz wrote:
Remus wrote:Another option for Windows 10 is Firefox 52.9.0 ESR 32bit:
https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/firefox ... 9.0esr.exe
i tried this method!!!! but firefox auto updates to the latest version even if i turn off autoupdates :shock:
when i load the website it just shows gray after adobe loads, and the game doesnt show up :mad: :sad:

Re: How to play Hopeless 2 (Shockwave 3D games) in 2017

Posted: 08 Dec 2019, 13:10
by Leftoz
Leftoz wrote:
Leftoz wrote:
Remus wrote:Another option for Windows 10 is Firefox 52.9.0 ESR 32bit:
https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/firefox ... 9.0esr.exe
i tried this method!!!! but firefox auto updates to the latest version even if i turn off autoupdates :shock:
when i load the website it just shows gray after adobe loads, and the game doesnt show up :mad: :sad:
omg now it says
The shockwave for Director plugin has crashed.
Reload the page to try again.

Re: How to play Hopeless 2 (Shockwave 3D games) in 2017

Posted: 09 Dec 2019, 18:43
by Remus
Leftoz wrote:
Remus wrote:And here is the latest Shockwave full installer on Windows 10:
http://necromanthus.com/Games/ShockWave ... taller.zip
:cheers:
Access Denied !

(method not allowed)
It's a protection on necromanthus.com
Do in this way:
- right mouse click over the link and Save Link As ...
- paste that on the browser URL and press Enter.
:wink:

Re: How to play Hopeless 2 (Shockwave 3D games) in 2017

Posted: 09 Dec 2019, 21:23
by Leftoz
Remus wrote:
Leftoz wrote:
Remus wrote:And here is the latest Shockwave full installer on Windows 10:
http://necromanthus.com/Games/ShockWave ... taller.zip
:cheers:
Access Denied !

(method not allowed)
It's a protection on necromanthus.com
Do in this way:
- right mouse click over the link and Save Link As ...
- paste that on the browser URL and press Enter.
:wink:
still the same, i just want to play this game so bad with my brother

Re: How to play Hopeless 2 (Shockwave 3D games) in 2017

Posted: 10 Dec 2019, 15:44
by Leftoz
right now i'm on my mother's laptop playing HOPELESS2 MERCENARY CAMP do you want to play with me? anyone?
SORRY WRONG TOPIC

Re: How to play Hopeless 2 (Shockwave 3D games) in 2017

Posted: 12 Dec 2019, 13:09
by Leftoz
Remus wrote:
Leftoz wrote:playable in 2019? pls i loved the game
On the latest Windows 10 (1909) I get excellent results with the default Internet Explorer 11 (32bit):
Hopeless2_2019.jpg
:biggthumbsup:
i updated windows 10 to 1909 and its still the same with the default IE 11, idk if its 32 bit or 64bit but both from Program files and Program files(x86) its still the same, loading 100% shockwave and page refreshes on its own after it says A problem caused this webpage to reload

Re: How to play Hopeless 2 (Shockwave 3D games) in 2017

Posted: 12 Dec 2019, 17:11
by Remus
Leftoz wrote:i updated windows 10 to 1909 and its still the same with the default IE 11, idk if its 32 bit or 64bit but both from Program files and Program files(x86) its still the same, loading 100% shockwave and page refreshes on its own after it says A problem caused this webpage to reload
I've just tested a new very cheap laptop (Core i3, 4GB RAM, Windows 10 - 1909) and it's working just fine (very stable and 50 FPS):
H2_SMC.jpg

Re: How to play Hopeless 2 (Shockwave 3D games) in 2017

Posted: 13 Dec 2019, 12:39
by Leftoz
Remus wrote:
Leftoz wrote:i updated windows 10 to 1909 and its still the same with the default IE 11, idk if its 32 bit or 64bit but both from Program files and Program files(x86) its still the same, loading 100% shockwave and page refreshes on its own after it says A problem caused this webpage to reload
I've just tested a new very cheap laptop (Core i3, 4GB RAM, Windows 10 - 1909) and it's working just fine (very stable and 50 FPS):
H2_SMC.jpg
maybe the laptop is 32bit or IE is 32bit, i cant play this game unfortunately :( only if its downloadable or i find a way and fix the crashing on IE when loading the game

Re: How to play Hopeless 2 (Shockwave 3D games) in 2017

Posted: 28 Dec 2019, 12:33
by Leftoz
Remus wrote:
Leftoz wrote:i updated windows 10 to 1909 and its still the same with the default IE 11, idk if its 32 bit or 64bit but both from Program files and Program files(x86) its still the same, loading 100% shockwave and page refreshes on its own after it says A problem caused this webpage to reload
I've just tested a new very cheap laptop (Core i3, 4GB RAM, Windows 10 - 1909) and it's working just fine (very stable and 50 FPS):
H2_SMC.jpg
i finally got it to work somehow with: IE11.0.10586.0 and WINDOWS 10 1511(build 10586.0) i will go play with my friend Squidal67 he likes the game too

Re: How to play Hopeless 2 (Shockwave 3D games) in 2017

Posted: 11 Mar 2020, 09:19
by Leftoz
well i updated windows to 1809 and now the game doesnt work, internet explorer crashes

Re: How to play Hopeless 2 (Shockwave 3D games) in 2017

Posted: 14 Mar 2020, 13:38
by Remus
Leftoz wrote:well i updated windows to 1809 and now the game doesnt work, internet explorer crashes
Tested on 3 different machines with the latest Windows version and didn't notice any issue.

Re: How to play Hopeless 2 (Shockwave 3D games) in 2017

Posted: 14 Mar 2020, 13:48
by freekarol
"You don't need to download and install Internet Explorer 11 in Windows 10 because it's already installed."

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/hel ... -downloads

Re: How to play Hopeless 2 (Shockwave 3D games) in 2017

Posted: 15 Mar 2020, 12:45
by Leftoz
Remus wrote:
Leftoz wrote:well i updated windows to 1809 and now the game doesnt work, internet explorer crashes
Tested on 3 different machines with the latest Windows version and didn't notice any issue.
bro i dont know dude, whatever is older for me works

Re: How to play Hopeless 2 (Shockwave 3D games) in 2017

Posted: 15 Mar 2020, 12:57
by Leftoz
Remus wrote:
Leftoz wrote:well i updated windows to 1809 and now the game doesnt work, internet explorer crashes
Tested on 3 different machines with the latest Windows version and didn't notice any issue.
well firefox esr works but shockwave crashes

Re: How to play Hopeless 2 (Shockwave 3D games) in 2017

Posted: 17 Mar 2020, 18:35
by Remus
Leftoz wrote:well firefox esr works but shockwave crashes
I don't have any crash on all my machines (IE11 - 32bit)
http://hopeless2.net/hopeless2/HMC.php?op=top
The first 4 guys play almost every day and they also use IE11 (32bit).
:wink:

Re: How to play Hopeless 2 (Shockwave 3D games) in 2017

Posted: 17 Mar 2020, 21:13
by Leftoz
Remus wrote:
Leftoz wrote:well firefox esr works but shockwave crashes
I don't have any crash on all my machines (IE11 - 32bit)
http://hopeless2.net/hopeless2/HMC.php?op=top
The first 4 guys play almost every day and they also use IE11 (32bit).
:wink:
do you have discord? if u have please add me Leftoz#1813, we can make a Hopeless2 discord server where we can play together

Re: How to play Hopeless 2 (Shockwave 3D games) in 2017

Posted: 17 Mar 2020, 21:26
by Leftoz
btw this happens when i download IE11 (32-bit) from there https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/hel ... -downloads
This version of setup doesn't support your Windows system type(32-bit/64-bit)

Re: How to play Hopeless 2 (Shockwave 3D games) in 2017

Posted: 21 Mar 2020, 23:20
by juan507
Hello, I can not play.
I have tried in several browsers but the game is not loading.

Re: How to play Hopeless 2 (Shockwave 3D games) in 2017

Posted: 22 Mar 2020, 17:43
by Remus
juan507 wrote:Hello, I can not play.
I have tried in several browsers but the game is not loading.
H2_2020.jpg

Re: How to play Hopeless 2 (Shockwave 3D games) in 2017

Posted: 22 Mar 2020, 19:32
by juan507
Remus wrote:
juan507 wrote:Hello, I can not play.
I have tried in several browsers but the game is not loading.
H2_2020.jpg
I have exactly the same version of internet explorer, but anyway it is not loading.

Re: How to play Hopeless 2 (Shockwave 3D games) in 2017

Posted: 22 Mar 2020, 19:51
by Leftoz
juan507 wrote:
Remus wrote:
juan507 wrote:Hello, I can not play.
I have tried in several browsers but the game is not loading.
H2_2020.jpg
I have exactly the same version of internet explorer, but anyway it is not loading.
yeah same for me, i had windows 10 1511, and it loaded and i could play the game, with windows 1809 i cant play

Re: How to play Hopeless 2 (Shockwave 3D games) in 2017

Posted: 22 Mar 2020, 20:29
by juan507
Remus wrote:
juan507 wrote:Hello, I can not play.
I have tried in several browsers but the game is not loading.
H2_2020.jpg
Which version of shockwave do you have?

Re: How to play Hopeless 2 (Shockwave 3D games) in 2017

Posted: 22 Mar 2020, 23:52
by Remus
Windows 10 (1909)
Shockwave 12.3.4.204 (download available in this topic)

Installed on 3 different computers, not a single SW crash.

Re: How to play Hopeless 2 (Shockwave 3D games) in 2017

Posted: 23 Mar 2020, 17:27
by juan507
Remus wrote:Windows 10 (1909)
Shockwave 12.3.4.204 (download available in this topic)

Installed on 3 different computers, not a single SW crash.
I have windows 10 pro, same shockwave and same internet explorer.
when the game finish to load, it restart by itself due a problem in the page.

Re: How to play Hopeless 2 (Shockwave 3D games) in 2017

Posted: 23 Mar 2020, 19:27
by Leftoz
juan507 wrote:
Remus wrote:Windows 10 (1909)
Shockwave 12.3.4.204 (download available in this topic)

Installed on 3 different computers, not a single SW crash.
I have windows 10 pro, same shockwave and same internet explorer.
when the game finish to load, it restart by itself due a problem in the page.
yeah same to me, exactly the same issue

Re: How to play Hopeless 2 (Shockwave 3D games) in 2020

Posted: 28 Sep 2020, 18:37
by Remus
For all those with PCs and Windows 10, please test this standalone EXE:
https://necromanthus.com/Games/ShockWave/hopeless.html
If everything runs fine on your machines, I'm thinking to create standalone/offline versions
for all the SW games.
:cheers:

Re: How to play Hopeless 2 (Shockwave 3D games) in 2020

Posted: 28 Sep 2020, 22:31
by Leftoz
Yes pls could u also add the games on steam if possible? I will test this tomorrow when i get on my pc
You really care about the game 11 years later... Im sorry it died

Re: How to play Hopeless 2 (Shockwave 3D games) in 2020

Posted: 29 Sep 2020, 10:47
by Leftoz
i click on the .exe and nothing happens maybe you are missing some files? i dont think a .exe alone will work

Re: How to play Hopeless 2 (Shockwave 3D games) in 2020

Posted: 29 Sep 2020, 12:33
by Remus
Leftoz wrote: 29 Sep 2020, 10:47 i click on the .exe and nothing happens maybe you are missing some files? i dont think a .exe alone will work
You cannot run DCR files in the IE11 browser, you cannot run EXE with everything packed inside of it, you cannot run anything.
:lol:
That EXE runs just fine on 5 different laptops (even without Shockwave plugin installed).
:wink:

p.s.
What graphics card do you have on that laptop?

Re: How to play Hopeless 2 (Shockwave 3D games) in 2020

Posted: 29 Sep 2020, 12:36
by Leftoz
yeah idk whats wrong, i have a pc my gpu is the gtx 750ti

Re: How to play Hopeless 2 (Shockwave 3D games) in 2020

Posted: 29 Sep 2020, 12:43
by Leftoz
my brother tested it aswell, when we double click the .exe the cursor shows that its loading but the game never launches, he has the gt 1030

Re: How to play Hopeless 2 (Shockwave 3D games) in 2020

Posted: 29 Sep 2020, 12:51
by Remus
So you both have PCs with Nvidia cards ...
It seems that Shockwave stopped working on Nvidia cards starting with driver version 368.XX
Let's forget about the EXE file for now.
Let's try to fix the SW plugin on your machine:
- be sure the Shockwave plugin is installed
- overwrite the "Windows\SysWOW64\Adobe\Shockwave 12\Xtras\Shockwave 3d Asset.x32" with the file provided here.
Shockwave3D_fix.zip
- restart your PC and try to play this game (use the IE11 32bit browser):
https://necromanthus.com/Games/ShockWave/hopeless.html
Please tell me the result.
:cheers:

Re: How to play Hopeless 2 (Shockwave 3D games) in 2020

Posted: 29 Sep 2020, 12:53
by Leftoz
okay i'm currently doing it i will reply as soon as possible

Re: How to play Hopeless 2 (Shockwave 3D games) in 2020

Posted: 29 Sep 2020, 12:56
by Leftoz
we are making progress, now i saw "Hopeless 2 Setup" but then internet explorer crashed

Re: How to play Hopeless 2 (Shockwave 3D games) in 2020

Posted: 29 Sep 2020, 12:59
by Remus
Leftoz wrote: 29 Sep 2020, 12:56 we are making progress, now i saw "Hopeless 2 Setup" but then internet explorer crashed
I told you to test another game (singleplayer)

Re: How to play Hopeless 2 (Shockwave 3D games) in 2020

Posted: 29 Sep 2020, 13:01
by Leftoz
oh, you sent me the hopeless2 link

Re: How to play Hopeless 2 (Shockwave 3D games) in 2020

Posted: 29 Sep 2020, 13:02
by Remus
Leftoz wrote: 29 Sep 2020, 13:01 oh, you sent me the hopeless2 link
No, I sent you the the Hopeless 1 link.
Again:
https://necromanthus.com/Games/ShockWave/hopeless.html

Re: How to play Hopeless 2 (Shockwave 3D games) in 2020

Posted: 29 Sep 2020, 13:05
by Leftoz
okay so here is the list:
Quake 3 reloaded: not working(ie crashes)
warcraft reloaded: stuck at; Adobe Shockwave Player is now installing.
rtwc reloaded: not working(ie crashes)
deusex reloaded: i see the main menu but ie crashes right after
doom reloaded: ie crashes
half-life reloaded: ie crashes