CTF Bug
- Remus
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Re: CTF Bug
That's not a CTF bug.Praveen wrote:Now We Played With Hell_Boyz !! They Scored 3 Points At Once
That means they put both flags at the same time and the session owner plus another player had bad connections (or connection glitches).
- Milan
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Re: CTF Bug
No we didn't, Kinho was owner (at the end of match he had 4 warnings) and both flags were at out base, he took our flag, put it at our base, than he took yellow one and scored 3 times at onceRemus wrote:That's not a CTF bug.Praveen wrote:Now We Played With Hell_Boyz !! They Scored 3 Points At Once
That means they put both flags at the same time and the session owner plus another player had bad connections (or connection glitches).
Plus, we gave them to score 2 times, to be a fair, but all the time yellow flag was at our base, so yellow flag was at 2 places at the same time (at yellow base and at our base), so after they scored second time (logically flags should be at their bases but NO) we started to fight and Kinho took yellow flag which was at our base and get scored
We have to figure out how to improve this, cause at tournament it will be a big problem
Milan
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- Praveen
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Re: CTF Bug
So We Cant Do Anything...
- Remus
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Re: CTF Bug
Can you replicate this bug?Milan wrote:Kinho was owner (at the end of match he had 4 warnings) and both flags were at out base, he took our flag, put it at our base, than he took yellow one and scored 3 times at once
Plus, we gave them to score 2 times, to be a fair, but all the time yellow flag was at our base, so yellow flag was at 2 places at the same time (at yellow base and at our base), so after they scored second time (logically flags should be at their bases but NO) we started to fight and Kinho took yellow flag which was at our base and get scored
We have to figure out how to improve this, cause at tournament it will be a big problem
Because i cannot.
- Praveen
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Re: CTF Bug
Milan wrote:We have to figure out how to improve this, cause at tournament it will be a big problemRemus wrote:That's not a CTF bug.Praveen wrote:Now We Played With Hell_Boyz !! They Scored 3 Points At Once
That means they put both flags at the same time and the session owner plus another player had bad connections (or connection glitches).
yes i Agree With Milan This is a big Problem With Tournaments !!!
Remus u Said Its Some bad Connection or ... (Connection Glitches) What About Turks!! They All have very bad Connections Everytime Every Minute So We need a Solution For this Problem We Don,t Want to See Turks in 1st Place (With Connection Glicthes)
- Milan
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Re: CTF Bug
I saw this "multiple score" at once many times and in 90% cases this bug or connection issues of player who score happened when the two flags were at one base and when player scored fast, you know, take his flag, put it at base, take opposite flag and scored.Remus wrote: Can you replicate this bug?
Because i cannot.
Milan
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Five, six, grab your crucifix.
Seven, eight, gonna stay up late.
Nine, ten, never sleep again..
One, two, Freddy's coming for you.
Three, four, better lock your door.
Five, six, grab your crucifix.
Seven, eight, gonna stay up late.
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- Remus
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Re: CTF Bug
Many times at the same players ...Milan wrote:I saw this "multiple score" at once many times and in 90% cases this bug or connection issues of player who score happened when the two flags were at one base and when player scored fast, you know, take his flag, put it at base, take opposite flag and scored.Remus wrote: Can you replicate this bug?
Because i cannot.
Not a single time for other players.
I will try to find a workaround for buggy computers and connection glitches.
p.s.
Every day I have to delete a few matches saved 2-3 times.
Take a guess: almost the same players are involved in those matches.
- Remus
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Re: CTF Bug
Updated CTF protocol:
after someone scores, the flags are locked for 5 seconds.
Clear the browser cache (history) and reload the game (webpage).
Please play a CTF match (with your horrible connections) and tell me if this issue is gone.
after someone scores, the flags are locked for 5 seconds.
Clear the browser cache (history) and reload the game (webpage).
Please play a CTF match (with your horrible connections) and tell me if this issue is gone.
- Praveen
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Re: CTF Bug
Remus wrote:Updated CTF protocol:
after someone scores, the flags are locked for 5 seconds.
Clear the browser cache (history) and reload the game (webpage).
Please play a CTF match (with your horrible connections) and tell me if this issue is gone.
COOOooOOOOool Nice Idea !!
Ty Remus
- Praveen
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Re: CTF Bug
Remus,
Again Problem With CTF Both Flags Are in Our base Simply will putted in both in our base But We Are Not Scored !!!
& we Are leaved That camp & Remaked Another ONE Same Problem To opposite team They Cant Scored ... (in Aztec Temple)
Again Problem With CTF Both Flags Are in Our base Simply will putted in both in our base But We Are Not Scored !!!
& we Are leaved That camp & Remaked Another ONE Same Problem To opposite team They Cant Scored ... (in Aztec Temple)
- Remus
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Re: CTF Bug
Who was the session owner (the first listed player)?Praveen wrote:Remus,
Again Problem With CTF Both Flags Are in Our base Simply will putted in both in our base But We Are Not Scored !!!
& we Are leaved That camp & Remaked Another ONE Same Problem To opposite team They Cant Scored ... (in Aztec Temple)
And I need to know the position (player number) of simplysheikh in that camp.
Guys,
I'm trying hard here to emulate your horrible connections and I don't get any error.
Josh, are you with me?
- Timberwolf
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Re: CTF Bug
Guys,
You need someone with good connection to own the camp. I don't know if there's another way around it.
Figure out who has the best connection and let them own.
It's a small price to pay for a game without issues.
You need someone with good connection to own the camp. I don't know if there's another way around it.
Figure out who has the best connection and let them own.
It's a small price to pay for a game without issues.
- Remus
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Re: CTF Bug
I've made another minor change in the CTF protocol.
You need to clear the browser cache and to reload the game.
Guys,
The truth is the following:
Some players NEVER had these problems.
Why?
Because they have good internet connection.
Other players ALWAYS have various problems:
they save the score 2-3 times, they are kicked out by the WatchDog, etc
Why?
Because they have serious connection issues:
they lose data packets and they send bursts of packets from time to time.
For various reasons: cheap ISP, messengers on, updaters on, messed up computer, etc
You need to clear the browser cache and to reload the game.
Guys,
The truth is the following:
Some players NEVER had these problems.
Why?
Because they have good internet connection.
Other players ALWAYS have various problems:
they save the score 2-3 times, they are kicked out by the WatchDog, etc
Why?
Because they have serious connection issues:
they lose data packets and they send bursts of packets from time to time.
For various reasons: cheap ISP, messengers on, updaters on, messed up computer, etc
- Lenny
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Re: CTF Bug
Maybe a list of the best players from each team who would be the best camp owner.
Would this maybe stop some of this from happening.
Remus, is it possible to create a check for a team get a 'score/10' for their connections. So everyone would know who shouldn't be session owner if there is a better scoring person there.
I understand that we are all open to having bad connections from time to time but this may help a little.
The bad session owners are always the same players.
I think I will extend the "Online Players List" in order to show their ping and their number of errors.
CTF Matches
Would this maybe stop some of this from happening.
Remus, is it possible to create a check for a team get a 'score/10' for their connections. So everyone would know who shouldn't be session owner if there is a better scoring person there.
I understand that we are all open to having bad connections from time to time but this may help a little.
The bad session owners are always the same players.
I think I will extend the "Online Players List" in order to show their ping and their number of errors.
CTF Matches
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- Remus
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Re: CTF Bug
1) a very good idea.Lenny wrote:1) Maybe a list of the best players from each team who would be the best camp owner.
Would this maybe stop some of this from happening.
2) Remus, is it possible to create a check for a team get a 'score/10' for their connections. So everyone would know who shouldn't be session owner if there is a better scoring person there.
I understand that we are all open to having bad connections from time to time but this may help a little.
3) The bad session owners are always the same players.
2) yes, it's possible.
But that means to turn the game into a 5-15 minutes benchmark. Probably a bad idea.
3) more than true.
- Praveen
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Re: CTF Bug
Remus wrote:Who was the session owner (the first listed player)?Praveen wrote:Remus,
Again Problem With CTF Both Flags Are in Our base Simply will putted in both in our base But We Are Not Scored !!!
& we Are leaved That camp & Remaked Another ONE Same Problem To opposite team They Cant Scored ... (in Aztec Temple)
And I need to know the position (player number) of simplysheikh in that camp.
Guys,
I'm trying hard here to emulate your horrible connections and I don't get any error.
Josh, are you with me?
Session owner is Tanweer, & listed players are Turkish_Soldier i Dont get of Any Problem With Matches Like These i had 1 Warning Game is very smooth everytime (im Kicked out First time )
Anyways i Will Try to to play Again CTF with mah Teammates i Will See Again what happen
- Timberwolf
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Re: CTF Bug
Praveen,
For the time being, forget the warnings. Sheikh probably also had little warnings.
Drogba and by_zeus get 0 warnings.
Ignore these warnings. Warnings are not the be all, end all of Internet connection. 0 warnings does not mean you have good connection, 10 warnings does not mean you have bad.
There are other factors.
Focus on how to get a good owner.
Remus,
Can the camp have a permanent owner, even if someone's not playing?
For example: With my connection, I can own and not have any problems. If "Timberwolf" also had a name like "GameMod," or something to that purpose, I could open up camps in CTF, DM, DOM, and I would register as the permanent owner instead of a "team."
This way, the top slot is taken and everyone else can just join in those camps without issue.
I'm not sure something like this can work.
For the time being, forget the warnings. Sheikh probably also had little warnings.
Drogba and by_zeus get 0 warnings.
Ignore these warnings. Warnings are not the be all, end all of Internet connection. 0 warnings does not mean you have good connection, 10 warnings does not mean you have bad.
There are other factors.
Focus on how to get a good owner.
Remus,
Can the camp have a permanent owner, even if someone's not playing?
For example: With my connection, I can own and not have any problems. If "Timberwolf" also had a name like "GameMod," or something to that purpose, I could open up camps in CTF, DM, DOM, and I would register as the permanent owner instead of a "team."
This way, the top slot is taken and everyone else can just join in those camps without issue.
I'm not sure something like this can work.
- Remus
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Re: CTF Bug
A camp canNOT have a permanent owner.Timberwolf wrote:Remus,
Can the camp have a permanent owner, even if someone's not playing?
For example: With my connection, I can own and not have any problems. If "Timberwolf" also had a name like "GameMod," or something to that purpose, I could open up camps in CTF, DM, DOM, and I would register as the permanent owner instead of a "team."
This way, the top slot is taken and everyone else can just join in those camps without issue.
I'm not sure something like this can work.
Always the first listed player is the owner.
If he leaves the camp, the next one with the highest position becomes the camp owner.
This is the fastest algorithm (no wasted resources).
Of course, it can be changed.
For example, I might declare a list with "the best camp owners":
["Timberwolf", "Scrappitt", "welano", ...]
If they join a camp, they become the camp owner (no matter what's their slot number).
But in this case we have to get back to Isaac Asimov's rules of robotics.
1) if there is no "best camp owner", the 1st listed player is the owner
2) if there is a "best camp owner", the other slots are ignored
3) if there are two "best camp owners" in the same camp, the 1st listed is the owner.
etc
A bunch of wasted resources for almost nothing.
Both teams should decide the camp owner.
It takes a few seconds to leave the camp and come back in the proper position.
- Timberwolf
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Re: CTF Bug
I just thought having a camp permanently open would solve it, but...
That's what I said from the start: just find the best connection and let them own. It's not hard, I wouldn't think.
Or maybe it is.
That's what I said from the start: just find the best connection and let them own. It's not hard, I wouldn't think.
Or maybe it is.
- Remus
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Re: CTF Bug
If there is no one there, the camp is deleted by the MUS.Timberwolf wrote:I just thought having a camp permanently open would solve it, but.
But presuming it's not (a bad idea anyway), if there is no one there, who is the session owner?
- Timberwolf
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Re: CTF Bug
Well, this is obviously where I defer to you.
But I was thinking that it would be kept open as a server camp, or perhaps kept open as "my" camp, technically, even if I left.
Like four permanently open camps per tab...
But as I said way back - they just need to find the best connection.
But I was thinking that it would be kept open as a server camp, or perhaps kept open as "my" camp, technically, even if I left.
Like four permanently open camps per tab...
But as I said way back - they just need to find the best connection.
- Remus
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Re: CTF Bug
This is a VERY bad idea.Timberwolf wrote:Well, this is obviously where I defer to you.
But I was thinking that it would be kept open as a server camp, or perhaps kept open as "my" camp, technically, even if I left.
Why should I waste server RAM & processor for an empty camp?
Do you tell the server before you leave the camp:
"Hey server, I'll be back in 5 minutes. Keep this camp open for me".
- Lenny
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Re: CTF Bug
Many veteran and honest teams, would use this to good effectRemus wrote:I might declare a list with "the best camp owners":
How the rest of the teams would use it, Im not to sure,
against new teams maybe too there advantage.
against veteran and honest teams, NO WaY
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- Remus
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Re: CTF Bug
As I said before, this is probably the best approach if the teams are full of morons unable to decide who is the best session owner for their match.Lenny wrote:Many veteran and honest teams, would use this to good effectRemus wrote:I might declare a list with "the best camp owners":
How the rest of the teams would use it, Im not to sure,
against new teams maybe too there advantage.
against veteran and honest teams, NO WaY
But these teams should not be allowed to participate to any tournament.
- Remus
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Re: CTF Bug
Clear the browser cache (history) and reload v2.23
Capture The Flag should work PERFECT now.
Even for those with bad connection.
Capture The Flag should work PERFECT now.
Even for those with bad connection.
- Praveen
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Re: CTF Bug
Remus Today Im wonder
Tanweer was Cant touch Yellow Flag in there base
He is Taking our flag in our base in CTF & He cant put Green flag in our Green base wow!
Credits Goes to juan507 team
that 1 flag is myn simply tried many times but .. he cannot put flags in our base see one of these ... Green Flag with Tanweer in our base he Cannot! Put there
Tanweer was Cant touch Yellow Flag in there base
He is Taking our flag in our base in CTF & He cant put Green flag in our Green base wow!
Credits Goes to juan507 team
that 1 flag is myn simply tried many times but .. he cannot put flags in our base see one of these ... Green Flag with Tanweer in our base he Cannot! Put there
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- Remus
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Re: CTF Bug
Connection glitches and/or buggy computers (messed up OS, RAM issues, etc).Praveen wrote:Remus Today Im wonder
Tanweer was Cant touch Yellow Flag in there base
He is Taking our flag in our base in CTF & He cant put Green flag in our Green base wow!
Credits Goes to juan507 team
that 1 flag is myn simply tried many times but .. he cannot put flags in our base see one of these ... Green Flag with Tanweer in our base he Cannot! Put there
I tried hundred of times to replicate a few of your "bugs" without any luck.
Try to explain me this one:
some players always have bugs, other players did not have a single one.
- Praveen
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Re: CTF Bug
We Dont Get Any Single. Problem With Play other team
while Playing with Turks. We have All problem i Think We know All What is Juan Connection
while Playing with Turks. We have All problem i Think We know All What is Juan Connection
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Re: CTF Bug
haha juan is not turk!!!Praveen wrote:We Dont Get Any Single. Problem With Play other team
while Playing with Turks. We have All problem i Think We know All What is Juan Connection
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Re: CTF Bug
i will help you in replicating bug , i didnt get time for this testing and replicating else i would have replicated all these way before :)Remus wrote:Connection glitches and/or buggy computers (messed up OS, RAM issues, etc).Praveen wrote:Remus Today Im wonder
Tanweer was Cant touch Yellow Flag in there base
He is Taking our flag in our base in CTF & He cant put Green flag in our Green base wow!
Credits Goes to juan507 team :
that 1 flag is myn simply tried many times but .. he cannot put flags in our base see one of these ... Green Flag with Tanweer in our base he Cannot! Put there
I tried hundred of times to replicate a few of your "bugs" without any luck.
Try to explain me this one:
some players always have bugs, other players did not have a single one.
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- Praveen
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Re: CTF Bug
So what welano Also Not Turk. but Their both Connection too Sucks!supreme wrote: haha juan is not turk!!!
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Re: CTF Bug
but i like both of them :) and they feel the pain of not killing not like many who still think they are good but they look like unable to aim and get killed.. hehePraveen wrote:So what welano Also Not Turk. but Their both Connection too Sucks!supreme wrote: haha juan is not turk!!!
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- Praveen
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Re: CTF Bug
ur Right They both are good. babys
- juan507
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Re: CTF Bug
after the third point we couldn't capture the yellow flag of our base, my teammate neitherPraveen wrote:Remus Today Im wonder
Tanweer was Cant touch Yellow Flag in there base
He is Taking our flag in our base in CTF & He cant put Green flag in our Green base wow!
Credits Goes to juan507 team
that 1 flag is myn simply tried many times but .. he cannot put flags in our base see one of these ... Green Flag with Tanweer in our base he Cannot! Put there
Fair Play ...... Not Cheat
- Remus
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Re: CTF Bug
I just saw you today: 5 steps forward, 1 step backwards.juan507 wrote:after the third point we couldn't capture the yellow flag of our base, my teammate neither
That's a sign of connection issues (delayed data packets).
In a CTF match, that issue might mess up the triggers.
But it's ok Juan.
You are a honest player and you are welcome here.