Hopeless 2, computers and internet connections

Post by **Timberwolf** » 09 Jun 2011, 17:25

The gameplay in those days was so much better. I didn't know what a bad connection was!!

Then with server changes and 12-year-olds deciding to pollute us with nothing but junk-filled computers and everything else, it is incredibly difficult to even pull a .333 killing average in camps for skilled players, unless of course you are part of the problem.

Post by **Remus** » 09 Jun 2011, 17:51

Timberwolf wrote:The gameplay in those days was so much better.

On contrary.
In those days I didn't see a single good team match.
The current gameplay is WAY better.

I have all the statistics since february 2009.
Let me show you the main differences:
1) the current number of daily players is 3-4 times bigger (compared to the best days of StrykeMC!).
2) in those days all the camps were bloated with unregistered players, dumbs and dead heads.
Noob killers!
Not anymore.
3) 6 weapons, 3 of them (pistol, shotgun, grenade launcher) almost useless.
4) 10% turkish players compared to these days (this is the only point I agree with you).
Most of the turkish players have terrible connection and they ruin the camps.
5) a few team matches (in the past year we had THOUSANDS of team matches!!!).
For example "Brigada_Sangrienta" did not play a single team match.

So the only thing we need now is a server in Europe for the turkish players.
They should search for sponsors ...

Post by **Scrappitt** » 09 Jun 2011, 19:48

Remus wrote:1) the current number of daily players is 3-4 times bigger (compared to the best days of StrykeMC!).
2) in those days all the camps were bloated with unregistered players, dumbs and dead heads.
Noob killers!
Not anymore.
3) 6 weapons, 3 of them (pistol, shotgun, grenade launcher) almost useless.
4) 10% turkish players compared to these days (this is the only point I agree with you).
Most of the turkish players have terrible connection and they ruin the camps.
5) a few team matches (in the past year we had THOUSANDS of team matches!!!).
For example "Brigada_Sangrienta" did not play a single team match

6) You could play in camps with the most basic of pc's
7) We actually managed to get a tournament to the final stage.
8) Chat worked better (for me

)
9) You could actually be out of range of weapons and therefore move about freely.
10) You could play against the machine called 866.

You are right about the team games. Much better to have them now but at least the only Turkish team was Ottomans who were decent.

Oh and Praveen, here is another scoreboard for you to look at from earlier days. (Can you guess who is at No.16)

Post by **Remus** » 09 Jun 2011, 20:00

Scrappitt wrote:6) You could play in camps with the most basic of pc's
7) We actually managed to get a tournament to the final stage.
8) Chat worked better (for me )
9) You could actually be out of range of weapons and therefore move about freely.
10) You could play against the machine called 866.

StrykeMC is a primitive version of Hopeless 2.

a single map, 5 characters x 2 outfits, 6 (ugly) weapons
vs
9 maps, 11 characters x 3 outfits, 14 weapons, land mines, a bunch of other features.

You cannot even compare them.
But if you are stuck with that Spectrum Sinclair ...

Post by **Scrappitt** » 09 Jun 2011, 20:14

I know they don't compare to now, you have created a fantastic varied game. But why do I look back at that time with a sense of nostalgia, maybe it was the simplicity (easy for my small brain to cope with

), maybe everything just seemed a lot fairer then.

Post by **Remus** » 09 Jun 2011, 20:27

Scrappitt wrote:I know they don't compare to now, you have created a fantastic varied game. But why do I look back at that time with a sense of nostalgia, maybe it was the simplicity

Because we all do that.
I always look back when I have to do something new.
But i'm not stuck in the past.
In my opinion, this is a big mistake and it never brings anything good.

So it's time for you to get a decent computer.

Post by **Milan** » 09 Jun 2011, 22:09

I agree with Simon and Josh, I also was very happy, those days we didn't know for existence of CheatEngine and other hack programs, I could speak with 90% of players in game, now only with 10%, now I don't like most of players in game, I am the most hated person now and I was so so cute, almost as bunny

Scrappitt wrote: Oh and Praveen, here is another scoreboard for you to look at from earlier days. (Can you guess who is at No.16)

It's me

Remus changed it after I achived 10k of frags. Haha and I just wanted that he change my forum username not game as well so that's why I had trouble for 2 days to log in as el_milan

Post by **Scrappitt** » 09 Jun 2011, 22:24

Milan wrote:Scrappitt wrote:
Oh and Praveen, here is another scoreboard for you to look at from earlier days. (Can you guess who is at No.16)
It's me
Remus changed it after I achived 10k of frags. Haha and I just wanted that he change my forum username not game as well so that's why I had trouble for 2 days to log in as el_milan

That was when you were in Eternal_Stryke, before you were a Hells_Girl, before you were a COD. Come to think of it Milan, you are just a gun for hire. Just like the 13yr old Turkish Boys you moan about for keep changing teams.

Post by **Timberwolf** » 10 Jun 2011, 00:01

11) Remus spying on other people playing and keeping worthless stats but never playing makes for an expert the same way a kid can play Grand Theft Auto and somehow be an expert killer in real life.

Post by **Remus** » 10 Jun 2011, 07:37

You are wrong guys.
The latest StrykeMC version (v1.84) is still hosted on http://necromanthus.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I might unlock it to prove you that you'll get bored after 10 minutes.
"Simplicity" means a game without future (a dead game).
Just take a look at all these hundreds of feature requests in the past year.

Hopeless 2 is about x10 times better than StrykeMC.
From any point of view.
But Simon is unable to understand a basic fact:
every new feature takes a slice of RAM and processing power.
And Hopeless 2 has a bunch of features.

Josh is unable to understand another basic fact:
Many countries have bad internet connection to Chicago - USA.
A few of them: Turkey, Norway, Spain, Argentina, Mexico, Venezuela.

And finally:
Take a look only at the first 100 players:
http://necromanthus.com/Games/ShockWave ... layers.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
vs
http://www.infdat.com/hopeless2/HMC.php?op=top" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
How many turkish players (with bad connection) do you see in the first listing?

To conclude.
1) for Simon:
Core 2 Duo 2GHz, 2GB DDR2-800, GeForce 8600GT, Windows XP, Internet Explorer 6
A 5 years old mid-range computer.
I get 48-50 FPS in full camp on any map.

2) for Josh:
We need more servers.
Chicago - USA is not a good option for many countries.

Post by **John_H** » 10 Jun 2011, 08:09

and

for

us

Post by **Praveen** » 10 Jun 2011, 09:24

Scrappitt wrote: Oh and Praveen, here is another scoreboard for you to look at from earlier days. (Can you guess who is at No.16)

yea,
Simon

i know he is Milan,
he said to me that (Eternal Stryke) is his first team.
thx for the sharing this old players list!

Post by **Scrappitt** » 10 Jun 2011, 10:13

Remus wrote:Hopeless 2 is about x10 times better than StrykeMC.
From any point of view.
But Simon is unable to understand a basic fact:
every new feature takes a slice of RAM and processing power.
And Hopeless 2 has a bunch of features.

I can understand basic facts.
I agree that the game has improved 10X.
But I have never really gone much for having 15+ different weapons, give me 4 and I am happy.
I have never really gone for having 15+ different characters, give me 4 and I am happy.
Maybe I am alone with this. I know all the kids NEED all of these extras and I suppose they are the target audiance.
This isn't a request to go back to the old program, its just my opinion.

Post by **Timberwolf** » 10 Jun 2011, 10:47

"Better" is always relative.

I don't dislike the game, obviously, as I still play it. It is just "better," in my opinion, without a lot of the crap and crowd we have now.

I have contended and still do contend that we would have a very large audience outside of bad Internet havens if only the morons were put out to pasture like a useless hunting dog.

Post by **supreme** » 10 Jun 2011, 11:08

Remus give us black and white game

so that we can play with 50/50 with 19th century computers.... pleaaaaaase

Post by **Remus** » 10 Jun 2011, 11:19

Scrappitt wrote:But I have never really gone much for having 15+ different weapons, give me 4 and I am happy.
I have never really gone for having 15+ different characters, give me 4 and I am happy.

A game like that is dead in a few months.
In fact, 99% of the browser based games on the market are dead in less than 1 year.
And StrykeMC was one of them.
Without updates and maintenance, a game has no future.
On the other hand, many people want to play 3D games with computers suitable for office, chat and other simple tasks.
Sorry fellows, that's impossible.

supreme wrote:Remus give us black and white game so that we can play with 50/50 with 19th century computers.... pleaaaaaase

Yes Kiren.
Simon will get a game with a single character (the prehistorik one) and a single weapon (a club).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prehistorik" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Or better, with some pictures & text instead of them (to maximize the FPS value).

Post by **supreme** » 10 Jun 2011, 11:27

Remus wrote:
supreme wrote:Remus give us black and white game so that we can play with 50/50 with 19th century computers.... pleaaaaaase
Yes Kiren.
Simon will get a game with a single character (the prehistorik one) and a single weapon (a club).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prehistorik" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Or better, with some pictures & text instead of them (to maximize the FPS value).

please give me too. i have 64mb memory laptop atm.. by which i can enter in camp hardly

and ovi took advantage and killed me much.. I thought he thought me as friend but I got this later tht he only jumped to save him.. baaa.. I will return and get back revenge.. this time I would be happy

Post by **Timberwolf** » 10 Jun 2011, 11:57

Maybe ovi is just better than you!

Post by **Scrappitt** » 10 Jun 2011, 13:03

Remus, all this makes us sound very ungrateful for all the hard work you do here. It isn't meant that way.

Post by **ulubatli** » 10 Jun 2011, 13:45

Scrappitt wrote:
Remus wrote:1) the current number of daily players is 3-4 times bigger (compared to the best days of StrykeMC!).
2) in those days all the camps were bloated with unregistered players, dumbs and dead heads.
Noob killers!
Not anymore.
3) 6 weapons, 3 of them (pistol, shotgun, grenade launcher) almost useless.
4) 10% turkish players compared to these days (this is the only point I agree with you).
Most of the turkish players have terrible connection and they ruin the camps.
5) a few team matches (in the past year we had THOUSANDS of team matches!!!).
For example "Brigada_Sangrienta" did not play a single team match
6) You could play in camps with the most basic of pc's
7) We actually managed to get a tournament to the final stage.
8) Chat worked better (for me )
9) You could actually be out of range of weapons and therefore move about freely.
10) You could play against the machine called 866.

You are right about the team games. Much better to have them now but at least the only Turkish team was Ottomans who were decent.

Oh and Praveen, here is another scoreboard for you to look at from earlier days. (Can you guess who is at No.16)

where am I in that list ? Were I playing glass marble game between Remus's legs?

10000%20scoreboard.jpg

Post by **Timberwolf** » 10 Jun 2011, 13:58

Ulu, you missed out on peterlech

Hands down, he was the best player to ever play this game. If he were still here, he would have probably 500,000 frags.

Post by **Scrappitt** » 10 Jun 2011, 18:44

Ulu, I am spoiling you with a rare picture of the elusive Peterlech.
He was never one for standing still where you could shoot him easily

This was taken just after we got our first sniper rifle from Uncle Remus, please see there are also no mod boxes. Blimey, things were primitive back then, and I still only managed 40/50FPS

Post by **Remus** » 10 Jun 2011, 19:27

Scrappitt wrote:Ulu, I am spoiling you with a rare picture of the elusive Peterlech.

I am spoiling you with a common picture in those days.

Scrappitt_2_years_ago.jpg

Post by **Lenny** » 10 Jun 2011, 19:41

A truly basic camp

Make it Remus

again

More with less is more
More or less

Post by **Remus** » 10 Jun 2011, 19:47

Lenny wrote:More with less is more
More or less

In fact, more with less is zero.

Post by **Lenny** » 10 Jun 2011, 19:59

Zero with less is zero less = more

I'm

Post by **Remus** » 10 Jun 2011, 20:03

Lenny wrote:Zero with less is zero less = more

Zero with less is something negative.

Post by **Timberwolf** » 10 Jun 2011, 20:43

Where in the hell has that peterlech photo been hiding. Wow!

Memories!

And I'm sure Remus has a ton of "I just killed myself" from scrap

Post by **Milan** » 10 Jun 2011, 21:23

Remus wrote:
Lenny wrote:Zero with less is zero less = more
Zero with less is something negative.

Less with less is more, minus and minus give a plus

Btw, I remember that peterlech but I don't remember his as tough guy, at that time 866 was tough

Post by **Timberwolf** » 10 Jun 2011, 21:25

I was joking only.

Peterlech was that guy who only stood still and walked in straight line.

With today's new K/D ratio, he would have 15/291 but he would NEVER QUIT!

Much courage with this one.

Post by **Remus** » 10 Jun 2011, 21:41

To all those "nostalgic noob killers":
http://forum.necromanthus.com/necroforu ... &topic=102" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Scroll down and also change the pages (1-35, 36-70, ...) at the bottom of the frame.
A bunch of screenshots from those days.

Post by **Timberwolf** » 10 Jun 2011, 23:21

I think I was better back then than I am now.

I died 80 times in 1 DOM match to 5.

I am General Noob

Post by **Praveen** » 11 Jun 2011, 08:43

Remus wrote: I am spoiling you with a common picture in those days.
Scrappitt_2_years_ago.jpg

i think this pic is few months back..
John killed his self

Post by **John_H** » 11 Jun 2011, 17:28

bcz i killed a friend and i don t get those points ...i prefer to kill my self

Post by **supreme** » 15 Jun 2011, 23:15

Core i7 quadcore
nvidia gt420
fps 20/50 and camp was not full..
google chrome windows 7
baaaaaaaaaaa
remus whats this? :(

Post by **Remus** » 16 Jun 2011, 07:27

supreme wrote:Core i7 quadcore
nvidia gt420
fps 20/50 and camp was not full..
google chrome windows 7
baaaaaaaaaaa
remus whats this? :(

Athlon XP 2400
onboard Nvidia 6100
Internet Explorer 6 and Windows XP.
40/50 FPS in full camp.

Be sure the Antialiasing is disabled (off).

Post by **supreme** » 16 Jun 2011, 11:19

Remus wrote:
supreme wrote:Core i7 quadcore
nvidia gt420
fps 20/50 and camp was not full..
google chrome windows 7
baaaaaaaaaaa
remus whats this? :(

Athlon XP 2400
onboard Nvidia 6100
Internet Explorer 6 and Windows XP.
40/50 FPS in full camp.

Be sure the Antialiasing is disabled (off).

i did .. but still had bad fps results with slow motion.. is it because of new shockwave or what????????
i hate you :(

Post by **Remus** » 16 Jun 2011, 11:59

supreme wrote:i did .. but still had bad fps results with slow motion.. is it because of new shockwave or what????????
i hate you :(

I think they gave you a Celeron 1GHz instead of Core i7.

Start the game in Training mode (the Network is disabled).
If you get 50/50 FPS on any map (textures to "high"), there is something wrong with the modem/router of your laptop.
It's a processor killer.

Post by **Praveen** » 16 Jun 2011, 12:01

supreme wrote:Core i7 quadcore
nvidia gt420
fps 20/50 and camp was not full..
google chrome windows 7
baaaaaaaaaaa
remus whats this? :(

same problem with me..
losing.. fps this update

Post by **Timberwolf** » 16 Jun 2011, 13:20

Slow motion?

Are you trying to play in smooth instead of fast?

Even with 4GB RAM and a GTS450 I can't play in smooth for more than 10 minutes.

FAST MOTION, young grasshopper.

Post by **supreme** » 17 Jun 2011, 21:18

Timberwolf wrote:Slow motion?

Are you trying to play in smooth instead of fast?

Even with 4GB RAM and a GTS450 I can't play in smooth for more than 10 minutes.

FAST MOTION, young grasshopper.

not giving me any good results with smooh /fast motion.. i guess my new pc specificaions are not that bad.. is it remus?

Post by **Remus** » 17 Jun 2011, 21:29

supreme wrote:not giving me any good results with smooh /fast motion.. i guess my new pc specificaions are not that bad.. is it remus?

Not bad at all.
But something goes wrong there.
Your Core i7 is killed by a (processing) sucker.

But I need much more details to identify that piece of crap (probably a software).

Post by **ZeronMan** » 18 Jun 2011, 19:36

Yea, as I have read reviews about core i7 PCs here's what I have found out: Generally when someone now a days buys a new gaming PC, the factory pre-installs Windows 7. The factory also installs a TON of useless software, which mostly the reason for a 3 or 2 star rating for the "Features" review. This is because they are annoyed that they have to manually uninstall worthless software installed. So I suggest 2 things: 1: Find a day when you are bored to uninstall some software you think you don't need. And 2: Open up Windows Task Manager (Ctrl+Alt+Delete) and click "processes" tab. There you will find what software that is running in the background is sucking up all of your memory and PC usage. Click the process and click "end process" button below.

Hope this helps!

Post by **Milan** » 07 Jul 2011, 14:30

enes_bugat wrote:Hi timberwolf;
peri is IP from ; Turkey-İstanbul
enes_bugat(me) IP from ; Turkey-İstanbul
peri and me IP in Turkey but peri in elite list
i am not enter elite list
my connection is good
JackFrost tested me!
Please look my connection

peri is not from Istanbul.
peri is in elite because she is honorable person.
You are not. I told you a million time, you will never be at elite list and nobody will help you. Stop with this boring messages.

Post by **John_H** » 07 Jul 2011, 15:16

I would like to know WHAT the HELL it changes for you being in that fucking damn shity list

Post by **Remus** » 07 Jul 2011, 19:12

enes_bugat wrote:
John_H wrote:I would like to know WHAT the HELL it changes for you being in that fucking damn shity list
remus John_H use bad words!
nokta said bad word and banned

There is a HUGE difference between "fucking damn shity list" and "fuck you Remus".

enes_bugat wrote:Timberwolf or Remus??

Timberwolf is the manager of the "elite" list (players with decent internet connection).
What do you want from me?

Post by **Lenny** » 07 Jul 2011, 20:42

Has ULUBATLI had his password stolen

NO

This is one reason why, ULUBATLI is elite, and enes_uzun_bugat is not

Post by **supreme** » 07 Jul 2011, 20:49

enes_bugat wrote:
Lenny wrote:Has ULUBATLI had his password stolen

NO

This is one reason why, ULUBATLI is elite, and enes_uzun_bugat is not
lenny_hacker
this question for Timberwolf

Stop spamming enes, wait for reply, or move to USA to be in elite list. Have patience! .Topic Closed!

Post by **John_H** » 08 Jul 2011, 13:07

and i can even tell for everyone in this game...that you are a big little ass hole toooooo

Post by **Timberwolf** » 08 Jul 2011, 15:24

Enes bugat

Last time I seen you, your connection VERY bad.

How do you expect to be in elite list?