Hopeless 2 (v2.60 - v2.65)

Post by **supreme** » 14 Jun 2013, 10:52

manga wrote:
Remus wrote:This summer you'll get the first HD maps plus double resolution for weapons and characters.
Here are two samples:
1) the new M-249
M249.jpg
2) Kristen Stewart (the blonde and ponytail version )
Kristen.jpg
:cheers
Kiren very nice as aesthetic, but I need to kiren joke kiren very sweet

Its Kristen not Kiren you dumb kotu

Remus wrote:I've tried 5 maps in the past 3 months.
But good looking map does not necessarily mean good gameplay.
And this is the main problem with most of the maps in any multiplayer game.
Anyway, the 6th one rocks!
:mrgreen
Here is a small part of a large and complex map (alpha stage):
WLW.jpg
The gameplay is very promising (a mixture between NCY and SMC).
There is a big chance to become the most popular map.
New and better screenshots during the beta stage.
:cheers

Thats coooooooool and tempting

Post by **manga** » 14 Jun 2013, 14:43

looks like you

Post by **Lenny** » 14 Jun 2013, 15:59

The new map looks very good

Two questions Remus.
Firstly, when will this map be ready to play.
And secondly, will 3rd person players be able to crouch behind windows without being seen, but still able to shoot other players

if so, then I suggest making the bottom of the windows lower in height.
At least then we could see some of the RAT

Post by **Remus** » 14 Jun 2013, 17:01

Lenny wrote:Firstly, when will this map be ready to play.
And secondly, will 3rd person players be able to crouch behind windows without being seen, but still able to shoot other players

1) I don't know
2) Yes and No. Many buildings have two floors.
So it depends on where is the rat, where is the bat and where are the brave pieces of meat.

Post by **By_zeus** » 14 Jun 2013, 18:11

Remus wrote:I've tried 5 maps in the past 3 months.
But good looking map does not necessarily mean good gameplay.
And this is the main problem with most of the maps in any multiplayer game.
Anyway, the 6th one rocks!

Here is a small part of a large and complex map (alpha stage):
WLW.jpg
The gameplay is very promising (a mixture between NCY and SMC).
There is a big chance to become the most popular map.
New and better screenshots during the beta stage.

When I saw this,I mind came cowboy movies

I like it.

Post by **Remus** » 14 Jun 2013, 19:08

By_zeus wrote:When I saw this,I mind came cowboy movies
I like it.

WLW = Wild West

The map rocks, but is very complex (needs a lot of work).

Post by **ulubatli** » 15 Jun 2013, 07:35

Remus wrote:I've tried 5 maps in the past 3 months.
But good looking map does not necessarily mean good gameplay.
And this is the main problem with most of the maps in any multiplayer game.
Anyway, the 6th one rocks!

Here is a small part of a large and complex map (alpha stage):
WLW.jpg
The gameplay is very promising (a mixture between NCY and SMC).
There is a big chance to become the most popular map.
New and better screenshots during the beta stage.

We are waiting for it impatiently

Post by **Lenny** » 17 Jun 2013, 19:16

Remus wrote:I've tried 5 maps in the past 3 months.
But good looking map does not necessarily mean good gameplay.
And this is the main problem with most of the maps in any multiplayer game.
Anyway, the 6th one rocks!

The gameplay is very promising (a mixture between NCY and SMC).
There is a big chance to become the most popular map.

Respawn and maybe teleport locations strategically placed away from rat holes.

ATM in NCY a rat can hold up near AW50 and cover every respawn location

This is only a problem in camps with multiple levels. The single level camps don't seem affected by this.

Just some feedback.

Post by **Remus** » 17 Jun 2013, 20:11

Lenny wrote:ATM in NCY a rat can hold up near AW50 and cover every respawn location
This is only a problem in camps with multiple levels. The single level camps don't seem affected by this.

NCY is the most played map (and the best one in my opinion).
There will be many strategic places in WLW.
No teleporters.
The teleporters are useful in large maps only, but they mess up the gameplay.

And talking about "rats & bats" ... in fact they are the most intelligent players.
This kind of soldiers won most of the battles in the past 2000 years.
The brave "face to face warriors" have always been pieces of meat.

They won a few battles only thanks to their huge number.

Post by **Lenny** » 17 Jun 2013, 21:19

Remus wrote:And talking about "rats & bats" ... in fact they are the most intelligent players.
This kind of soldiers won most of the battles in the past 2000 years.

Remus wrote:
The brave "face to face warriors" have always been pieces of meat.
They won a few battles only thanks to their Huge number.

Huge Numbers. Isn't that what you want.

Post by **Remus** » 18 Jun 2013, 07:26

Lenny wrote:Huge Numbers. Isn't that what you want.

Yes, in the beginner camps (without "veterans" playing unregistered).
And I want to see the veterans in the normal camps killing rats & bats.

Post by **profesorhr** » 18 Jun 2013, 07:43

Yes, in the beginner camps (without "veterans" playing unregistered).
And I want to see the veterans in the normal camps killing rats & bats.

Me 2

Post by **Ace---007** » 19 Jun 2013, 01:14

Remus wrote:I've tried 5 maps in the past 3 months.
But good looking map does not necessarily mean good gameplay.
And this is the main problem with most of the maps in any multiplayer game.
Anyway, the 6th one rocks!

Here is a small part of a large and complex map (alpha stage):
WLW.jpg
The gameplay is very promising (a mixture between NCY and SMC).
There is a big chance to become the most popular map.
New and better screenshots during the beta stage.

Old west sheriff and outlaw gunfight! Looks great!

Clint Eastwood epic western film "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly"

Post by **Remus** » 24 Jun 2013, 10:43

I've started the beta stage.
I hope to be done in a week or so.

WLW.jpg

Post by **slapshot** » 24 Jun 2013, 13:31

Remus wrote:I've started the beta stage.
I hope to be done in a week or so.
WLW.jpg

Good work boss! Looks awesome!!!

Post by **hawk** » 24 Jun 2013, 16:35

Looks absolutely awesome,reminds me of those classic cowboy films fistful of dollars,for a few dollars more,the good the bad and the ugly.
Cant wait till play this one,I wonder if it as a saloon and some wagons to jump in and shoot from.

Post by **Lenny** » 24 Jun 2013, 19:21

By_zeus wrote: When I saw this,I mind came cowboy movies :lol
I like it. :cheers

Remus wrote: WLW = Wild West

Hmm

Tombstone

hawk wrote:I wonder if it as a saloon

Ace---007 wrote:Old west sheriff and outlaw gunfight!

O.K. Corral

Post by **Remus** » 24 Jun 2013, 22:10

hawk wrote:I wonder if it as a saloon

Yes, but there are many other points of attraction: Hotel, Bank, Sheriff, Warehouse, General Store, ...

WLW_Saloon.jpg

Post by **Ace---007** » 25 Jun 2013, 08:29

hawk wrote: Looks absolutely awesome,reminds me of those classic cowboy films fistful of dollars,for a few dollars more,the good the bad and the ugly.
Cant wait till play this one,I wonder if it as a saloon and some wagons to jump in and shoot from.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gXlwiME5tI" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Post by **deamuel** » 25 Jun 2013, 11:14

Remus wrote:
hawk wrote:I wonder if it as a saloon
Yes, but there are many other points of attraction: Hotel, Bank, Sheriff, Warehouse, General Store, ...
WLW_Saloon.jpg

yes boss i like hotel

Post by **hawk** » 25 Jun 2013, 16:28

It all sounds very nice I also hope there will be some "wanted" posters,with pictures of some of the games players eg wanted dead or alive Lenny $5000 dollars

Post by **Lenny** » 25 Jun 2013, 17:42

hawk wrote: wanted dead or alive Lenny $5000 dollars :cheers

Why me.
And if i have to be a wanted man, then $500,000 dollars sounds much better

Post by **Remus** » 26 Jun 2013, 12:30

v2.61

The 16th map has been included: Wild West
The gameplay looks very promising (probably the best one so far).
All the players are welcome: rats, bats and face to face warriors.

WLW.jpg

Note 1: a HD version of this map (with much more details) will be available later this summer.

Note 2: complex map!
If you want the best performances in 3rd person, you need a good computer.

Post by **slapshot** » 26 Jun 2013, 13:35

You have completely outdone yourself this time boss! GREAT gameplay!

But yes, a HUGE fps drop in 3rd person. Time for slap to shop for another computer again!

As always, from all of us a gigantic THANK YOU! for all of your hard work.

Post by **hawk** » 26 Jun 2013, 19:12

The western map as great play and nicely laid out with a nice cowboy feel to it.
Thank you so much for creating these games and forums and rules.

Post by **Remus** » 27 Jun 2013, 07:40

slapshot wrote:You have completely outdone yourself this time boss! GREAT gameplay!

hawk wrote:The western map as great play and nicely laid out with a nice cowboy feel to it.

Very glad to hear folks.
The potential of this map is HUGE.

Post by **Remus** » 27 Jun 2013, 09:53

Clear the browser cache and reload the WLW map.
Another round of optimizations.
Improved performances on entry-level and mid-range computers.

Post by **slapshot** » 27 Jun 2013, 13:06

Remus wrote:Clear the browser cache and reload the WLW map.
Another round of optimizations.
Improved performances on entry-level and mid-range computers.

Don't know what kind of hocus-pocus-pagan-ritualistic-black magic-mo-jo you used, but my fps is much more stable!

Post by **Remus** » 27 Jun 2013, 13:15

slapshot wrote:Don't know what kind of hocus-pocus-pagan-ritualistic-black magic-mo-jo you used,
but my fps is much more stable!

Here are some WLW "benchmarks":

1) I have a piece of crap for testing purposes only

Athlon XP 2400, 2GB RAM, onboard Nvidia 6100
1st person (HD weapons & characters disabled): 45-49 FPS
3rd person (HD weapons & characters disabled): 35-40 FPS

2) Core 2 Duo E6400, 4GB RAM, Nvidia GTS 450
1st person (HD enabled): 49-50 FPS
3rd person (HD enabled): 45-49 FPS

3) Core i5 3570K, 8GB RAM, Nvidia GTX 660
HD enabled, Bloom enabled, 1st or 3rd person: 49-50 FPS

Post by **freekarol** » 27 Jun 2013, 14:20

Remus wrote:
slapshot wrote:Don't know what kind of hocus-pocus-pagan-ritualistic-black magic-mo-jo you used,
but my fps is much more stable!

Here are some WLW "benchmarks":

1) I have a piece of crap for testing purposes only
Athlon XP 2400, 2GB RAM, onboard Nvidia 6100
1st person (HD weapons & characters disabled): 45-49 FPS
3rd person (HD weapons & characters disabled): 35-40 FPS

2) Core 2 Duo E6400, 4GB RAM, Nvidia GTS 450
1st person (HD enabled): 49-50 FPS
3rd person (HD enabled): 45-49 FPS

3) Core i5 3570K, 8GB RAM, Nvidia GTX 660
HD enabled, Bloom enabled, 1st or 3rd person: 49-50 FPS

It seems WLW requires a much better computer than other maps. Lots of lagging and my fps were even 10, haha.

Post by **Remus** » 27 Jun 2013, 14:49

freekarol wrote:It seems WLW requires a much better computer than other maps.
Lots of lagging and my fps were even 10, haha.

A complex map requires a good processor.
That 10 FPS indicates a slow processor.
You need to disable HD weapons & characters and to use 1st person.
Also, be sure you don't use any Special FX.

Post by **Remus** » 27 Jun 2013, 17:27

Here are a few of the medium FPS values in the WLW map today:

hawk (Intel HD Graphics 3000) : 42
stills14 (Intel HD Graphics 3000) : 50 (!)
metallica77 (ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3400) : 41
rookie77 (GeForce 9500 GT) : 45
rmmatador (GeForce 8400 GS) : 49
slapshot (ATI Radeon HD 4200) : 41
Ace---007 (Intel HD Graphics) : 30
rthompson (GeForce GTX 550 Ti) :50 (!)
freekarol (AMD Radeon HD 6520G) : 18

And here is a Core 2 Duo E6400 (a 7 years old processor) with Nvidia GTS 450
HD weapons & characters ON, Bloom ON!

WLW_Bloom.jpg

46 FPS in the "worst" map spot !

Post by **Lenny** » 27 Jun 2013, 19:02

I will have to wait until weekend to play this map, rrrr.
For the last 2 or 3 weekends my fps have been very erratic. I got to play on a weekday a few weeks ago, and my fps were good.
So you will have to wait for my indepth analogy on the new map for just a few more days

Post by **hawk** » 27 Jun 2013, 19:45

I have played this map with my two laptops and both were very good,both are windows seven and about 3 or 4 years old the one today as a core i3,not sure about my other laptop,no matter as everything is fine,no problems,game play is smooth and the graphics are good,just the same as the other maps.

Post by **Remus** » 27 Jun 2013, 19:59

hawk wrote:I have played this map with my two laptops and both were very good,both are windows seven and about 3 or 4 years old the one today as a core i3,not sure about my other laptop,no matter as everything is fine,no problems,game play is smooth and the graphics are good,just the same as the other maps.

Anything above 40 FPS means smooth movement, good aiming and good gameplay.
Anyway ... clear the browser cache for the 2nd time today.
All those with crappy computers might get another 2-3 FPS boost.

Next month you'll get 2 wagons, "someone" in jail and a trap for those very "skilled".

Post by **freekarol** » 28 Jun 2013, 12:05

Remus wrote:Here are a few of the medium FPS values in the WLW map today:

hawk (Intel HD Graphics 3000) : 42
stills14 (Intel HD Graphics 3000) : 50 (!)
metallica77 (ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3400) : 41
rookie77 (GeForce 9500 GT) : 45
rmmatador (GeForce 8400 GS) : 49
slapshot (ATI Radeon HD 4200) : 41
Ace---007 (Intel HD Graphics) : 30
rthompson (GeForce GTX 550 Ti) :50 (!)
freekarol (AMD Radeon HD 6520G) : 18

And here is a Core 2 Duo E6400 (a 7 years old processor) with Nvidia GTS 450

It seems I will have to buy an external graphic card or add more RAM. A processor AMD A6-3420M could be enough. Or I will buy some of Lenovo laptops but begging for it would be much better, haha.
HD weapons & characters ON, Bloom ON!
WLW_Bloom.jpg
46 FPS in the "worst" map spot !

It seems I will have to buy an external graphic card or add more RAM. A processor AMD A6-3420M could be enough. Or I will buy some of Lenovo laptops but begging for it would be much better, haha. I must be cursed because in spite of low fps I'm not immortal. If I was... That's my dream.

Post by **Remus** » 28 Jun 2013, 12:20

freekarol wrote:It seems I will have to buy an external graphic card or add more RAM. A processor AMD A6-3420M could be enough. Or I will buy some of Lenovo laptops but begging for it would be much better, haha.

A dedicated (external) GPU is the best solution.
However, statistically speaking, about 50% of the Hopeless 2 players with laptops,
have Intel HD Graphics 3000.
That means the 2nd generation Intel Core i5 / i7 processor with IGP ( integrated graphics processor).
Most of them have over 40 FPS in any map.
These days you can buy a laptop with Intel HD Graphics 4000 (the 3rd generation Intel Core i5/i7).
Obviously, with better performances compared to the previous version.

But keep in mind: only the best laptops can compete with the mid-range desktops.
So a (not very expensive) desktop is always better than the most expensive laptop.
I have a laptop (with Core i7 processor), but I don't play games on it.

Post by **hoakin1986** » 28 Jun 2013, 20:32

Good work Remus! Season for hunting rats started

Post by **Remus** » 28 Jun 2013, 20:57

hoakin1986 wrote:Good work Remus! Season for hunting rats started

That's right.
Rats and bats everywhere.
Even Selene has been prepared for summer and she is looking for a room.

Selene_summer.jpg

Post by **Remus** » 03 Jul 2013, 14:43

Clear the browser cache, reload the game and check out the WLW jail.
Name that player!

Post by **slapshot** » 03 Jul 2013, 15:21

Remus wrote:Clear the browser cache, reload the game and check out the WLW jail.
Name that player!

Poor, poor Syryne. That will teach her for dancing on the rooftop!

Post by **Syryne** » 03 Jul 2013, 19:27

Cmon tht s unfair slapshot robbed a bank and walked free,
and i get arrested just coz i was wandering in d wrong place

at least give me some decent clothes and a confortable bed

Post by **slapshot** » 03 Jul 2013, 19:45

Syryne wrote:
Cmon tht s unfair slapshot robbed a bank and walked free,
and i get arrested just coz i was wandering in d wrong place
at least give me some decent clothes and a confortable bed

Post by **Remus** » 04 Jul 2013, 08:12

Clear the browser cache and reload the game.
Quality boost in the WLW map (for those with decent processor / graphics card).

Post by **Remus** » 05 Jul 2013, 17:38

New outfit (4 colors) and 4 new faces for Selene (female no.5).
The blue one is based on Megan Fox.

Selene.jpg

Post by **supreme** » 05 Jul 2013, 18:44

Remus wrote:New outfit (4 colors) and 4 new faces for Selene (female no.5).
The blue one is based on Megan Fox.
Selene.jpg

how it has 4 faces?

Post by **Remus** » 05 Jul 2013, 19:41

supreme wrote:how it has 4 faces?

That's quite a "smart" question (from a veteran and forum moderator).

Selene_x4.jpg

Post by **supreme** » 05 Jul 2013, 21:56

Remus wrote:
supreme wrote:how it has 4 faces?
That's quite a "smart" question (from a veteran and forum moderator).

Selene_x4.jpg

hehe, you need to look very carefully to find the difference as all have same haircut, nearly same eye shape except difference in eye color (I like the green one out of these) so green one is easily identified as diff while others have same nose, change in lipstick or its application and eye colors.

And thank you so much for appreciating me for my smartness, i am much obliged

hehe

Post by **slapshot** » 05 Jul 2013, 22:38

supreme wrote:
Remus wrote:
supreme wrote:how it has 4 faces?
That's quite a "smart" question (from a veteran and forum moderator).

Selene_x4.jpg
hehe, you need to look very carefully to find the difference as all have same haircut, nearly same eye shape except difference in eye color (I like the green one out of these) so green one is easily identified as diff while others have same nose, change in lipstick or its application and eye colors.

And thank you so much for appreciating me for my smartness, i am much obliged hehe

Post by **Remus** » 06 Jul 2013, 07:57

supreme wrote:hehe, you need to look very carefully to find the difference as all have same haircut, nearly same eye shape except difference in eye color (I like the green one out of these) so green one is easily identified as diff while others have same nose, change in lipstick or its application and eye colors.

It's the SAME character with 4 DIFFERENT outfits.
And you don't have to be a guru to see the differences.

But I agree with Steve: I

them all.