Cheaters (aka morons)

Post by **Timberwolf** » 17 Aug 2010, 16:39

I'm finding a new breed of cheater in Beginner camps. The regular "players" are using it. But my theory is that they're just testing it out as regular players not to get caught, because they have full knowledge of the camps and know how to play at a "pro" level.

They're coming into regular camps with the revised version.

Increased strafe speed (But not SpeedHack. They don't walk faster, they just strafe from side to side in a literal instant and DO NOT have bad connections)

Radar = on (They are able to find me hiding in all the little spots each and every time. I tested this out in intervals to make sure it wasn't within the 90second radar limit)

Increased health (This one has been done many times, so it's nothing new, but I think they might be tweaking the amount of damage bullets can cause them)

Increased damage (Some players were in there over the course of my investigation killing players with one or two g3 bullets in a face-to-face fight. I don't even think this is possible with a headshot)

So this is my question to Remus:

After examining the Cheat Engine, many forums and other media, I've learned that you can "tweak" games in many, many ways.

So, what are we to do as players to report this kind of stuff if it's not straight-up SpeedHack or a health value reading 4000? Know what I mean?

I'm saying - if we come and say, "SoandSo won't die at all, and he strafes like lightning but isn't really 'fast,'" how do we--me, you, everyone else--distinguish that as cheating?

Post by **Remus** » 17 Aug 2010, 16:58

Timberwolf wrote:Increased strafe speed (But not SpeedHack. They don't walk faster, they just strafe from side to side in a literal instant and DO NOT have bad connections)

Radar = on (They are able to find me hiding in all the little spots each and every time. I tested this out in intervals to make sure it wasn't within the 90second radar limit)

Increased health (This one has been done many times, so it's nothing new, but I think they might be tweaking the amount of damage bullets can cause them)

Increased damage (Some players were in there over the course of my investigation killing players with one or two g3 bullets in a face-to-face fight. I don't even think this is possible with a headshot)

Josh,

None of these 4 is possible (with CheatEngine or any other hacking app).
Obviously, I cannot provide details.
In 99% of the cases, these are abnormalities caused by messed up connections.
Most of the players have cheap ISP (and bad connection).
They send bursts of data packets and they also lose many data packets every minute.
That's why they look immortal from time to time, they seem to kill with 1-2 bullets, they strafe fast, they walk through walls, etc

Post by **Timberwolf** » 17 Aug 2010, 21:10

BTW:

Sheikh's right about this ThecK idiot

He's completely hacked the game. His frags show 8000000000

Literally! I'm not making it up. And he won't die.

Post by **Remus** » 17 Aug 2010, 21:24

simplysheikh wrote:ThecK speedhack

Timberwolf wrote:Sheikh's right about this ThecK idiot
He's completely hacked the game. His frags show 8000000000
Literally! I'm not making it up. And he won't die.

Sorry Tanweer, I didn't see your posted message.
In any case, he didn't hack anything.
ThecK is a moron from Mersin - Turkey, with 226 frags and 1180 points.
The turkish prison needs more cells.
:smash:

Post by **ZeronMan** » 18 Aug 2010, 04:46

Remus wrote:
simplysheikh wrote:ThecK speedhack

Timberwolf wrote:Sheikh's right about this ThecK idiot
He's completely hacked the game. His frags show 8000000000
Literally! I'm not making it up. And he won't die.
Sorry Tanweer, I didn't see your posted message.
In any case, he didn't hack anything.
ThecK is a moron from Mersin - Turkey, with 226 frags and 1180 points.
The turkish prison needs more cells.

Im all for it

Post by **Cevher** » 18 Aug 2010, 17:23

hi remus

sagopa_34=speedhack :smash:

There moron flag
:smash:

Post by **supreme** » 18 Aug 2010, 17:39

Courageours team of cheaters!!!

firing fast moving fast.. do you think i am noob or COD is noob?
wth wrong with this team..
Team of Cheaters!!!

Post by **Timberwolf** » 18 Aug 2010, 17:39

Cevher, Mucaht, Manga =

SPEEDHACK

Post by **simplysheikh** » 18 Aug 2010, 17:40

i am agreed with Kiren

Punish them :smash:

Post by **Topz007** » 18 Aug 2010, 17:44

Very strange so,, but i agree too
:smash:

Post by **Remus** » 18 Aug 2010, 18:03

Cevher, mucaht & manga got banned.

Post by **mucaht** » 18 Aug 2010, 18:36

no Rmeus plz got banned not

im not cheat im kill just timber and supreme and tell mucaht cheat remus plz not im cheat

Post by **mucaht** » 18 Aug 2010, 18:37

Remus im not never Speedhack plz not im speedhack remus plz

Post by **mucaht** » 18 Aug 2010, 18:38

Remus plz not got banned not im speedhack and manga,Cevher plz got banned not

Post by **mucaht** » 18 Aug 2010, 18:38

Remus!!!!!

Post by **gcool101** » 18 Aug 2010, 18:40

muchat ....if you cheat please accept ...might remus gives you one more chance..

Post by **mucaht** » 18 Aug 2010, 18:42

Remus game your is we are honest with their false do you get to play anymore oynun

Post by **Remus** » 18 Aug 2010, 18:43

mucaht wrote:Remus plz not got banned not im speedhack and manga,Cevher plz got banned not

Talk to supreme, Timberwolf & Topz007.
If they can forgive you, I will activate your accounts again.

Post by **mucaht** » 18 Aug 2010, 18:44

gcool101 wrote:muchat ....if you cheat please accept ...might remus gives you one more chance..

Hi Gaurav,im never speedhack not one more play not im

Post by **mucaht** » 18 Aug 2010, 18:45

Remus wrote:
mucaht wrote:Remus plz not got banned not im speedhack and manga,Cevher plz got banned not
Talk to supreme, Timberwolf & Topz007.
If they can forgive you, I will activate your accounts again.

never Remus! im never speedhack no im never speedhack no im never speedack no

Call Of Duty one coward Courageours 4-1 Call Of Duty and call of dutyl eft the camp cowards!

Post by **tony** » 18 Aug 2010, 18:49

Banned

Post by **Timberwolf** » 18 Aug 2010, 18:51

Call of Duty is just the latest of the teams to suspect Courageousr as SpeedHack.

I've heard from:

Hell Boyz
Bangkok Dangerous
Rogue Troopers
Messengers of Death

And other sporadic players accusing members of Courageours of cheating.

During our particular match, the speed was insane.

There was no off-and-on. There no inconsistency. There was no sometimes fast, sometimes not.

From start to finish, the team fired bombs and bullets at a faster rate, covered the entire AZT map before we could get 2/3 through it, spawned quicker than we did. And even then that wasn't enough. They still even cheated by stopping the game and stealing our flag.

Then when it's time to "go" again, here they come like a jet plane, going faster than EVERYBODY.

Stop denying it.

We're all stupid?

Post by **mucaht** » 18 Aug 2010, 19:07

Timberwolf im never not speedhack!

Post by **Timberwolf** » 18 Aug 2010, 19:10

You're right. You're never not speedhack.

Adios

Post by **manga** » 18 Aug 2010, 20:17

Hi Remus you that you're doing is not fair you take sides you do not need us at all I use something we did not just 4-1 defeat are so absorbed did not cheat or something no Had you how Kujan you notice us in the match when you came into the game we enter the would that you did I ever fit did Remus We got innocence you to them believed, but errors did because we got innocence honor our're playing this game, but you listened to us before the game from the opening we are so far no cheating did yapmayızda. because we just are, but you just davranmıyosun that you're doing great haksızlık.courageurs open

Post by **Remus** » 18 Aug 2010, 21:13

To mucaht, manga & Cevher:

The latest records in AZT 4 (CTF) show:
mucaht: 159ms ping and only 7 errors
manga: 155ms ping and only 4 errors
Cevher: 158ms ping and only 6 errors.

So you had good connections.
Why did you move & shoot faster than COD?
Tell the truth and I will activate your accounts again.

Post by **manga** » 18 Aug 2010, 21:31

Remus we lie not just them playing well you cheat if you would understand Kujan t I tell you came into the game told them, and ban you we would understand cheating Had we Tricks are not timber when we beat though always cheating he just as we of them are good aware of this cheat does, but it becomes you did it Remus did you listen to them and ban us from listening to us you're the owner of the game is supposed to be impartial, please open a courageurs

Post by **Remus** » 18 Aug 2010, 21:39

manga wrote:you're the owner of the game is supposed to be impartial, please open a courageurs

I am impartial and I also asked Timberwolf and supreme to forgive you.

But you didn't answer to my question:
Why did you move & shoot faster than supreme, Timberwolf and Topz007?

Post by **manga** » 18 Aug 2010, 21:48

No tricks do not understand why Remus said well it will be decided each timber transaction, not something I've only played well in CTF CTF t play well we believe that we see at our matches

Post by **Remus** » 18 Aug 2010, 21:53

manga wrote:No tricks do not understand why Remus said well it will be decided each timber transaction, not something I've only played well in CTF CTF t play well we believe that we see at our matches

supreme and Topz007 had the same 159ms ping as you in that CTF match.
Why did they see you moving faster?
Tell the truth and I will activate your accounts right now.

Post by **manga** » 18 Aug 2010, 21:54

mcht already said sorry we are an angry people getting in the game honestly say they are slandering us, we love this game very open and remove the old players courageurs you know Remus Bunn

Post by **Timberwolf** » 18 Aug 2010, 21:57

Even assuming you played honestly well enough to beat us, that isn't what happened.

Here's what we're looking at here.

Yesterday, you were a second-rung team, losing to us in all types of matches.

Today, you're so incredibly skilled that not only do you score three flags in 5 minutes, but you outright treat us like we're noobs without even supreme and I together able to kill 1 of you from behind.

Even taking the possible cheating out of it, do you understand how utterly improbable that is?

Are the rest of us idiots?

Honestly. When have any of you been better than COD? Suddenly you're killing us in 1 second for 10 times in a row and rocketing through the camp with our flags while we're powerless to stop it.

On what planet does that happen?

Even when we've lost matches due to stupid cheap ISPs and players you can't even aim at, we didn't get crushed. We ALWAYS kick a little ass.

But we couldn't even slow you guys down -- pun intended there because it's LITERAL.

Post by **manga** » 18 Aug 2010, 21:59

We've only played Remus ii no tricks really, but I believe that youre going to say nothing to them, not us, nor we do not believe us

Post by **Remus** » 18 Aug 2010, 22:02

manga wrote:mcht already said sorry we are an angry people getting in the game honestly say they are slandering us, we love this game very open and remove the old players courageurs you know Remus Bunn

I didn't like your answer.
But because you are an old and mature player, your accounts are active again.
Be aware: there is no "next time" for cheaters.

Post by **manga** » 18 Aug 2010, 22:12

Thanks Remus, but others say you do the trick if Bunn us realize we are not tricks, but we are honest we know that Remus timber, please be honest with you we just played better these days so please let's be honest

Post by **Lenny** » 18 Aug 2010, 22:19

Josh Kiren

If courageours (mucaht manga) played COD in multiplayer 5 times (while Remus watches the camp) and courageours win 1 or 2 games would that maybe make you think it might be bad connection and not speedhack.

Post by **Timberwolf** » 18 Aug 2010, 22:28

Well, Lenny, I was really torn to accuse them. I get exactly what you're saying.

I mean, sometimes they do have bad connections. Sometimes they're incredibly bad to the point they can't even stay in camp.

And after playing them so much, I know what their bad connections look like.

Man. Honestly. This wasn't that.

This wasn't the connection stuff that Remus and I have been over and over and over. This was something completely different.

This was pure speed.

They weren't dying late. They weren't twitching and immortal. They weren't blinking. They were just that much faster than we were and were able to cover the entire camp in less time.

It looked like it did before the update, x2 speed.

We played Sheikh and Zesuga today and didn't experience anything like that. We played Distrug, Ovi and Djgeo today and didn't experience anything like that. But with them, it was insanity.

What are we supposed to do?

Post by **manga** » 18 Aug 2010, 22:47

Please Remus then you better think of this event after deciding to play against us all the tricks he will not complain as I care for him and listen to us

Post by **Lenny** » 18 Aug 2010, 22:48

The only thing we can do is put them to the test. Play COD if they win 2 of 5(Remus in camp) then we listen.If they cannot then then case closed.

Post by **abacs11** » 18 Aug 2010, 22:59

Hi Remus!

I like to play with him but....
lauro does speedhack yesterday and today too in VIP.

Post by **manga** » 18 Aug 2010, 23:05

You could link the event of timber growth

Post by **Remus** » 18 Aug 2010, 23:11

abacs11 wrote:Hi Remus!

I like to play with him but....
lauro does speedhack yesterday and today too in VIP.

Csaba,

Are you sure about lauro?
I ask because a few hours ago I tested him in a VIP camp (you were there).
Even with > spectate lauro I had a bad experience:
he walked through walls most of the time.

Not to mention his latest entry in the VIP camp (10 minutes ago): 0/59 and 119 errors.
That's HORRIBLE connection Csaba!

Post by **mucaht** » 18 Aug 2010, 23:26

Remus hi,Courageours honest , Call_Of_Duty liar they can not digest defeat Courageours never cheat no if cheat not i oath I would not use and never cheat

Post by **Milan** » 19 Aug 2010, 00:52

mucaht wrote:Remus hi,Courageours honest , Call_Of_Duty liar they can not digest defeat Courageours never cheat no if cheat not i oath I would not use and never cheat

mucaht, your team got a second chance, and your team isn't honest. I am not talking only about CheatEngine, there are many other things like starting match from middle of camp etc.
So play and shut up.

Post by **mucaht** » 19 Aug 2010, 01:26

You shut your mouth

are jealous you

Post by **ZeronMan** » 19 Aug 2010, 04:11

Remus wrote:Cevher, mucaht & manga got banned.

OHHOHOHOHOHO Lookie here my BUDDY Remus decided to BAN Manga EVEN THOUGH I already said he was speed hacking BUT nooooo remus said he's an HONEST player

"sigh" I love it when NO ONE listens to me :smash:

Post by **Kuja** » 19 Aug 2010, 13:57

Hi Remus,

when do ı ban open?

ı am not cheater,you can look at

please ban me

Post by **Kuja** » 19 Aug 2010, 14:02

ı am promise

not cheating,and I know now cheat program,Never never use

thanks

Post by **Timberwolf** » 19 Aug 2010, 14:47

Kuja. Here's the scoop on you.

You used once. You admitted it. You were banned and then let back into the game with the promise you'd never use again.

You used twice. You were caught. You were banned and never to be let back into the game again.

Bye.

Post by **Kuja** » 19 Aug 2010, 15:02

to open the mucahit ban,why I do not open