Hopeless 2 (beta 1.90 - 1.99)

Post by **Remus** » 27 Jul 2010, 19:31

another v1.96 update.

Textures Quality (in the main menu):
1) Low (suitable for entry-level computers)
2) Medium (for mid-range computers)
3) High (the default setting

)

Post by **ZeronMan** » 27 Jul 2010, 21:54

Post by **Remus** » 27 Jul 2010, 23:15

I just realized that SMC in Low textures resolution looks "impressive".

But I bet all those with cheap computers will get a better frame rate in VIP and AZT,
if they set "Medium" or "Low" texture quality.

Post by **Milan** » 28 Jul 2010, 00:16

No glitches...

Post by **anikilador** » 28 Jul 2010, 03:22

quieres decir que podrian subir también los fps??
un saludo

Post by **Remus** » 28 Jul 2010, 20:25

another v1.96 update.

Changed policy for the "> lock camp" command.
The session owner can lock the camp in the following conditions:
1) in "Free For All" if there are 4 players or more.
2) in "Free Teams" if each team has 2 members or more.
3) in "Deathmatch" if 1vs1, 2vs2, or 3vs3 (4vs4 is locked by default

)
4) in "Capture The Flag" if each team has 2 members or more.

Post by **Timberwolf** » 28 Jul 2010, 20:57

I think it's a good feature all around. It will also open more useful camps, instead of having 2 camps with 8 players and 2 camps with 1 player.

PS

SMC on low looks like a dream - all blurry and stuff.

I think I'll risk setting it on medium from now on.

Post by **Remus** » 02 Aug 2010, 12:51

The 2nd rusty jeep in the SMC map is different now.

SMC_jeep2.jpg

Post by **Timberwolf** » 02 Aug 2010, 19:02

What? No place for Kiren to jump in and drive this one?

Oh boy. Prepare for 50 messages on this one.

I'm not sure what it is here, maybe the original Hummer, but I like it.

Post by **supreme** » 02 Aug 2010, 19:27

oh dont worry about my jump.. i checked this thing first.. hehe
now my seat is cool and my new jeep is awesome.. :) hehe

i showed my jeep to sheikh.. hehe

Post by **Remus** » 02 Aug 2010, 19:37

Timberwolf wrote:I'm not sure what it is here, maybe the original Hummer, but I like it.

The Hummer is on the way (it needs more optimizations).

This is the KubelWagen (german WW2 military vehicle).
Here is a modern version:

kubelwagen.jpg

Post by **Topz007** » 03 Aug 2010, 00:01

Remus wrote:another v1.96 update.

Changed policy for the "> lock camp" command.
The session owner can lock the camp in the following conditions:
1) in "Free For All" if there are 4 players or more.
2) in "Free Teams" if each team has 2 members or more.
3) in "Deathmatch" if 1vs1, 2vs2, or 3vs3 (4vs4 is locked by default )
4) in "Capture The Flag" if each team has 2 members or more.

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well
topscore player, will close the camp when he is with four players. This will not allow more players enter the field. It's a good idea?

PS: good update for reversing (the field loads first, then display the menu, hehe, more work for the browser cache,, hihihi!)

Post by **Remus** » 03 Aug 2010, 09:45

beta 1.97

Changed STRAFE policy (more realistic).
Half speed for "walk ahead" + "strafe left or right".

p.s.
A new Multiplayer Mode is gonna be available soon!

Topz007 wrote:topscore player, will close the camp when he is with four players.
This will not allow more players enter the field. It's a good idea?

Only the session owner can lock the camp and it's a very good idea at least for 2 reasons:
1) there're top players with slow computers unable to get a decent FPS in case of more than 4 players in their camp.
2) you can have a "private" Free For All with 3 of your friends.

Post by **supreme** » 03 Aug 2010, 10:13

Remus wrote:beta 1.97

Changed STRAFE policy (more realistic).
Half speed for "walk ahead" + "strafe left or right".

p.s.
A new Multiplayer Mode is gonna be available soon!

Half speed for "walk ahead" + "strafe left or right".
so weird

.. its like we cant move this way or we are not allowed.. all would shift to
"walk backward" + "strafe left or right"

hehe :)

Post by **Remus** » 03 Aug 2010, 10:22

supreme wrote:Half speed for "walk ahead" + "strafe left or right".
so weird .. its like we cant move this way or we are not allowed.. all would shift to
"walk backward" + "strafe left or right"
hehe

It's not weird at all.
In fact you'll love it for several reasons:
- more realistic (try in the real life to strafe and check out the movement speed)
- better aiming
- better motion for bad pingers
- better cheaters hunt.

Post by **supreme** » 03 Aug 2010, 12:06

Remus wrote:
supreme wrote:Half speed for "walk ahead" + "strafe left or right".
so weird .. its like we cant move this way or we are not allowed.. all would shift to
"walk backward" + "strafe left or right"
hehe
It's not weird at all.
In fact you'll love it for several reasons:
- more realistic (try in the real life to strafe and check out the movement speed)
- better aiming
- better motion for bad pingers
- better cheaters hunt.

haha..
i bet josh will curse more... :smash:

Remus.. this is not working.. may be we need little faster strafe and less thn forward ( not 0.5/1, it should be .75/1 or can say if "WA"/"WD" then this would be 1 step in total)..

or we need same strafe that we have by pressing d/a..
i dont know.. but i and many other players are not comfortable with this strafe.. its like you are getting killed like in some trap where u cant do any thing else except getting killed.. :)
This is not helping.. we might need some other update..
player by himself should not feel tht he is much slow.. or cant move normal.

i dont know wht else to say,..
haha but i cant see my self dragging or some force stopping me to move..
like i am pushing myself forward but someone throwing me back.. haha

Post by **simplysheikh** » 03 Aug 2010, 12:17

I am agreed with Kiren we should think some thing diffrent to hunt Cheaters My lord Return our Moving Skills HEHE

Post by **Remus** » 03 Aug 2010, 12:41

supreme wrote:may be we need little faster strafe and less thn forward ( not 0.5/1, it should be .75/1 or can say if "WA"/"WD" then this would be 1 step in total)..

Faster strafe ???
That's a very stupid idea.

supreme wrote:or we need same strafe that we have by pressing d/a..
i dont know.. but i and many other players are not comfortable with this strafe.. its like you are getting killed like in some trap where u cant do any thing else except getting killed.. :)
This is not helping.. we might need some other update..
player by himself should not feel tht he is much slow.. or cant move normal.

This is helping A LOT.
You need to get used to it, that's all.
You also need to understand a few things:
1) strafe is a kind of sneak, so is slow by default.
2) in the real life almost no one is performing this motion.
3) in the real life you cannot combine "walk ahead"+"strafe".

p.s.
x0.7 speed ahead in case of strafe.
That's all you'll get, don't ask for more!

Post by **kurt** » 03 Aug 2010, 13:08

Remus wrote:beta 1.97

Changed STRAFE policy (more realistic).
Half speed for "walk ahead" + "strafe left or right".

so,we are in dream..or we are in smooth motion

Post by **Remus** » 03 Aug 2010, 13:12

kurt wrote:
Remus wrote:beta 1.97

Changed STRAFE policy (more realistic).
Half speed for "walk ahead" + "strafe left or right".

so,we are in dream..or we are in smooth motion

You have the same movement speeds.
Except "walk ahead + strafe" (30% slower).
The camps were full of players with double strafe speed and terrible motions.
Not anymore.

Post by **Remus** » 03 Aug 2010, 14:00

The perfect match for "walk ahead + strafe".
You need to clear the browser cache (history) and to reload the game (webpage).

Post by **supreme** » 03 Aug 2010, 14:30

Remus wrote:
supreme wrote:may be we need little faster strafe and less thn forward ( not 0.5/1, it should be .75/1 or can say if "WA"/"WD" then this would be 1 step in total)..
Faster strafe ???
That's a very stupid idea.

no.. i meant that if you changed to 0.5x strafe.. ( x = old strafe) then change it to (0.75x strafe).. this is all i meant in the post

anyways i will try to play with this one :)

ty ty :)

Remus wrote: p.s.
x0.7 speed ahead in case of strafe.
That's all you'll get, don't ask for more!

Post by **Timberwolf** » 03 Aug 2010, 18:25

I haven't seen it yet.

But if you change anything that folks have been used to, you know it's goingt to upset some.

But walking forward AND strafing -- who does that? (I mean, I know EVERYONE on the game does it. But it's not even a real motion.

)

Post by **Timberwolf** » 03 Aug 2010, 20:59

After playing some, here's my verdict.

80pingers should get regualr speed (the way it was)

160pingers should get the new updates

This way, it "appears" as if it evens out.

Even though it's slower now, everythings stepped back to become slower. Meaning that the speed disparity is still technically there because slow guys like me became even slower.

Just a thought.

I haven't played enough for a full verdict on it.

Post by **Lenny** » 03 Aug 2010, 22:05

p.s.
A new Multiplayer Mode is gonna be available soon!
What will be its name, and what will it entail. ??????

Post by **Remus** » 03 Aug 2010, 22:59

Lenny wrote:p.s.
A new Multiplayer Mode is gonna be available soon!
What will be its name, and what will it entail. ??????

Domination (aka "Eva goes home").

Better than CTF.
No other details for now.

Post by **Milan** » 04 Aug 2010, 00:03

Remus wrote:beta 1.97
Changed STRAFE policy (more realistic).
Half speed for "walk ahead" + "strafe left or right".

I don't like it at all

Post by **Timberwolf** » 04 Aug 2010, 00:16

I don't like it at all

But you're still 160ms though right? You shouldn't (not 'you' personally but all 160ms) be so much slower to everyone else - only how you feel.

Come play with my 74ms.

You'll be like grandpa in there fighting Olympians.

Post by **Milan** » 04 Aug 2010, 00:31

I don't understand what does this have with ping...

Post by **Timberwolf** » 04 Aug 2010, 01:19

That's what the whole "strafe" business was about anyway.

Players with higher ping values look like they're much faster when they strafe + walk forward.

This has been established.

Now the hope is to make it even across the board by taking the speed away.

But now it's even worse on guys like me.

I can't win for losing.

Post by **Remus** » 04 Aug 2010, 08:26

Milan wrote:
Remus wrote:beta 1.97
Changed STRAFE policy (more realistic).
Half speed for "walk ahead" + "strafe left or right".
I don't like it at all

It's not half-speed, it's 0.85.
:smash:

And this is the RIGHT value (the previous 1.0 was WRONG).
All the players with "walk ahead + strafe" were looking like speedhacks.
And here is the reason:
walk ahead = 1.0 speed
strafe = 0.5 speed
walk ahead + strafe = 1.12 speed (+12% speed boost !!!)
I had this bug for almost 2 years.
Not anymore.
The current values are:
walk ahead = 1.0 speed
strafe = 0.5 speed
walk ahead + strafe = 0.986 speed

Post by **anikilador** » 05 Aug 2010, 00:19

Post by **Remus** » 05 Aug 2010, 20:47

Two more v1.97 updates:

1) improved NetController
Now it's based on 3 triggers:
- 100ms ping
- 180ms ping
- 260ms ping
The players with ping >260ms cannot play anymore.

2) improved maps loader.

Post by **Timberwolf** » 05 Aug 2010, 23:40

We in the 100 and lower ping range owe you one.

Post by **anikilador** » 06 Aug 2010, 00:04

100 ms
HAHAHA
un saludo

Post by **Timberwolf** » 06 Aug 2010, 00:44

Post by **Milan** » 06 Aug 2010, 00:48

Remus wrote:Two more v1.97 updates:

1) improved NetController
Now it's based on 3 triggers:
- 100ms ping
- 180ms ping
- 260ms ping
The players with ping >260ms cannot play anymore.

Is this mean that players with ping under 100ms play together as players 100-180ms etc. Or I misunderstood?

Post by **Timberwolf** » 06 Aug 2010, 00:59

I was thinking it meant that players with 80ms now have the same "behaviors" as players with 160ms, and players with 160ms now have the same as 240ms, so it kind of evens the field.

I think (I might be wrong) that remus adjusted the data so that 80ms guys "act" like 160ms guys.

So now the 80ms guys don't die so quickly and they don't see everyone so fast anymore. It looks a lot more like how the old SMC used to look.

BTW

I tried to ask in camp what you meant by seeing how it goes, but I couldn't type but wwsssddwwssdd so I left to come back.

Post by **Remus** » 06 Aug 2010, 10:02

I got complaints from faithful players with bad connections ...

The NetContoller has been extended (4 ping intervals):
- 80ms ping
- 160ms ping
- 240ms ping
- 320ms ping
The players with ping >320ms cannot play anymore.

note:
All the players with ping >240ms ruin the camps.
In a future version a new command will be available for the session owner:
> maxping 160
All the players with ping >160ms will be kicked out of that camp.
Including the session owner ...

Post by **Timberwolf** » 06 Aug 2010, 14:21

Top (in the 100-160 range, I'm guessing) says there are a lot of disconnections in camp:

A lot of players getting disconnected and coming back time and again.

I don't know if this has anything to do with anything... Maybe they're not updated with the latest version?

Maybe the players getting disconnected are jumping over 320ms?

Post by **Remus** » 06 Aug 2010, 14:51

Timberwolf wrote:Top (in the 100-160 range, I'm guessing) says there are a lot of disconnections in camp:
A lot of players getting disconnected and coming back time and again.
I don't know if this has anything to do with anything... Maybe they're not updated with the latest version?
Maybe the players getting disconnected are jumping over 320ms?

1) I am in that range and i didn't have any problem today
2) the ping is measured only once per login
3) I just talked to Aldinho in a VIP camp.
I was there for over 15 minutes and he was not kicked out at all.

It happens to everyone and it's a matter of ISP.
For example two months ago, John_H (and other players from Italy) had the same issue:
http://www.infdat.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=532" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
It may take a few hours or a few days.
Nothing to do about that.

Post by **Timberwolf** » 06 Aug 2010, 15:40

And I don't think he was getting kicked out himself. I think he was talking about these two others players who kept leaving and coming back.

But for all I know, they could just be leaving when they have 50 health to come back with 100.

It's not like we haven't seen some strange morons around here.

Post by **Remus** » 06 Aug 2010, 15:41

I just talked to Marcos (from Brazil, same as Aldinho), gonzawa, Tanweer and Enes.
All of them with 159ms ping today.
They didn't have any connection issue today.

Post by **Remus** » 09 Aug 2010, 20:31

beta 1.98

The old ugly zombie is back.
8 different characters so far.

Domination and the 9th character ... probably this weekend.

Important note: v1.98 is NOT backward compatible!

Post by **Luciano** » 09 Aug 2010, 20:46

Nice im the zombie now.

Post by **anikilador** » 10 Aug 2010, 00:43

Remus wrote:beta 1.98

The old ugly zombie is back.
8 different characters so far.

Domination and the 9th character ... probably this weekend.

Important note: v1.98 is NOT backward compatible!

genial Remus te estás rifando hehe ya nadamas faltan los aviones y helicopteros

Post by **Remus** » 10 Aug 2010, 08:23

anikilador wrote:genial Remus te estás rifando hehe ya nadamas faltan los aviones y helicopteros

Honestly, an Air Strike every 30-60 seconds is on my to do list.
A few bombs over the noobs in the selected area.

Post by **yoxrock** » 10 Aug 2010, 19:09

Que tal Remus,,buena la foto en el burro..

,, otra cosa
Cuándo incluira articulos para los jugadores: gafas, gorras y me encantaria una bomba de gas...jeje,, es mucho pedir.

Post by **ZeronMan** » 10 Aug 2010, 20:39

The Zombie scares the crap out of me! When we're in VIP, the Thing just pops out of nowhere, and Ughh

Post by **supreme** » 10 Aug 2010, 21:19

zero should be banned for only speaking