Cheaters (aka morons)

Post by **Remus** » 02 Dec 2010, 08:22

Praveen wrote:ricardo1

Reason : using Speed hacks i think

Thanks for report, but I don't like that "I think".
If you are not sure about someone, talk to other players.

Post by **JackFrost** » 02 Dec 2010, 14:42

Hi Remus, i need to Report this! i stared a new room in SMC a few players came in. we was havening a good game. JarJarBinks came into room, and took over! he was killing all of us, it seemed he was everywhere..one would die at one end of camp then he kill somebody else at other end of camp! i don't know how he did it? his speed was fast and we would only see him for a moment it was like he walk around corner of castle or building then he was somewhere else in room...i kicked him out because i became suspicious of him! and while i was locking room he came back in and out me so fast . before i could even do anything about it. and i couldn't even get back into room until he left. how he did this i don't know?

JackFrost

Post by **Remus** » 02 Dec 2010, 14:51

JackFrost wrote:JarJarBinks came into room, and took over! he was killing all of us, it seemed he was everywhere.

i kicked him out because i became suspicious of him!

This Star Wars freak needs to be punished.
If you see any gungan disturbing your camp, just kick him out.

Post by **musoi** » 02 Dec 2010, 17:12

Ha ha...it seems to me the obviously strange behaviour of Jar Jar Binks and his gang ( very fast movements, high resistance to bullets...and other obscure stuff like this ) begins to rise eyebrows from other players's side...seriously Remus...did you check them ...when your time let you to...if its not speedhack its something else...not connection problems...SOMETHING ELSE....

Post by **JarJarBinks** » 02 Dec 2010, 18:58

JackFrost wrote:Hi Remus, i need to Report this! i stared a new room in SMC a few players came in. we was havening a good game. JarJarBinks came into room, and took over! he was killing all of us, it seemed he was everywhere..one would die at one end of camp then he kill somebody else at other end of camp! i don't know how he did it? his speed was fast and we would only see him for a moment it was like he walk around corner of castle or building then he was somewhere else in room...i kicked him out because i became suspicious of him! and while i was locking room he came back in and out me so fast . before i could even do anything about it. and i couldn't even get back into room until he left. how he did this i don't know?

JackFrost

You are one big coward! That's all! And leave me alone!
Every time you are kicking me out! What the hell is wrong with you?
Who are you to do something like that? :smash:

Post by **JackFrost** » 03 Dec 2010, 14:08

JarJarBinks wrote: You are one big coward! That's all! And leave me alone!
Every time you are kicking me out! What the hell is wrong with you?

This is what i have to say to you! first of all! quit trying to get off the subject of what you are doing. 1. I'm no coward. i have played with some of the best players in the game. 2. you don't come into a room, that me or anyone else opened and take over. 3. others are seeing their is something going on with you!..your speed is way to fast and it is very hard to kill you, we can shoot you but it takes to much to kill you! so is it like this all the time? {no but most of time! } and i would like to know how you can move from one spot to another in game room when we cant do that. now that makes me wonder! are you a Hacker? some kind of cheat! bad connection what?. thats up to Remus to decide. and not me, and yes i did kick you out of room, and i had good reason to do so. if you don't like playing game with me, and playing fair then don't.- so then go open yourself a room. but never take over a room that anybody else has opened. and retract your statement > (Every time you are kicking me out! } i have kicked you out 4 times. three of which was in the room SMC which you took over. and how you did it ? i don't know! and once in TFC. - so if i open a room again, and you come in doing your Crap. i will kick you out again. "and Jar Jar Binks is a fictional character from the Star Wars films The Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones". i wonder how many Clones there is like you? -

JackFrost

Post by **JarJarBinks** » 03 Dec 2010, 15:56

I am not hacker and it isn't your business to know everything :smash:

Maybe, but just maybe, one day you will be better than me

Till than, keep practicing

Post by **JackFrost** » 03 Dec 2010, 16:33

JarJarBinks you are Avoiding the the subject again. and I'm not going to see you use the forum! with your childish behavior! so this is the last word from me to you on this subject! tell your buddies or gang! not to try to intimidate me again, it will not work. other's will catch you sooner or later and report you. I'm not the only one that has seen what you are doing. " i quote you don't come into a room, that me or anyone else opened and take over. so if i open a room again, and you come in doing your Crap. i will kick you out again". if you steal the room and take over, and out me! like you did before and lock me out. i cant do anything about it but Report you! and i think you need to be reprimanded. end of story.

JackFrost

Post by **JarJarBinks** » 03 Dec 2010, 17:11

Yes Sir

I promise to be a good boy, but only with one condition, that you promise you'll be a good girl, ok

Post by **musoi** » 04 Dec 2010, 19:18

Hello Remus ! There is no one in administration of the game to take attitude against this gungan and his gang?!!...No offense but the guy raise suspicions from a lot of players...and you still make no comments when news about them are told on forum...if this kind of vehement reports were about another player...you immediately respond...in this case...why dont you?!!!It seems to me that is a serios report from jack frost....a trusted player....me...you know my opinion about them and i hope you considere me a trusted player....since the beginning of my presence in the game i never saw something like this....movements and resistance to bullets..like these NEWBIES AFTER ALL...even mucaht with his criminal connection is a lamb near these guys....im not a coward you know this...like jack frost...i played with all great presences in the game...from lenny to supreme. timber, zoldyck...i enjoy playing with them, i like being around tough players...because i have good things to learn from then but these guys are pure and simple just fraudes...i dont enjoy playing them...i dont speak to them no more on the game chat...just in forum....but i will keep combating them here until something will be done in this case....i cant detect what the hell its going on...only YOU can do that...so please do something Remus...Salve si Sanatate Maxima tie si familiei

Post by **supreme** » 04 Dec 2010, 19:36

musoi wrote:Hello Remus ! There is no one in administration of the game to take attitude against this gungan and his gang?!!...No offense but the guy raise suspicions from a lot of players...and you still make no comments when news about them are told on forum...if this kind of vehement reports were about another player...you immediately respond...in this case...why dont you?!!!It seems to me that is a serios report from jack frost....a trusted player....me...you know my opinion about them and i hope you considere me a trusted player....since the beginning of my presence in the game i never saw something like this....movements and resistance to bullets..like these NEWBIES AFTER ALL...even mucaht with his criminal connection is a lamb near these guys....im not a coward you know this...like jack frost...i played with all great presences in the game...from lenny to supreme. timber, zoldyck...i enjoy playing with them, i like being around tough players...because i have good things to learn from then but these guys are pure and simple just fraudes...i dont enjoy playing them...i dont speak to them no more on the game chat...just in forum....but i will keep combating them here until something will be done in this case....i cant detect what the hell its going on...only YOU can do that...so please do something Remus...Salve si Sanatate Maxima tie si familiei

what these guys did? as far as i know jack, he is newbie and he mostly has doubt about 90 percent players :)
and about these guys.. are they cheaters? i dont understand what kind of fraud they are doing. please explain us. So that we can able to find them and check them.. though i checked some how but as you are reporting.. tell us clearly.

Post by **Remus** » 04 Dec 2010, 19:50

musoi wrote:There is no one in administration of the game to take attitude against this gungan and his gang?!!

I'm ready to ban the gungan and his gang.
But I need a reason.
I didn't find him faster than me and I was able to kill him.
I cannot ban the gungan just because he is a Star Wars freak.

Post by **musoi** » 04 Dec 2010, 20:57

@supreme:..i explained in the text before but you dont read with full attention...the reasons are: insane speed, immortality...and i saw many bad connections in this game...this is not their case...they are something else...simple as that

@Remus...thx for rapid response man but i got one more question

...how many of those you banned were been PERSONALLY checked by you?...and how many were banned after several negative reports from other players?

Post by **musoi** » 04 Dec 2010, 20:59

Oh btw...i love Star Wars the movie

....and another thing...here we dont talk about only about the gungan...were talking about the gungan AND his gang

Post by **musoi** » 04 Dec 2010, 21:11

And another thing...like any smart cheater...because such things exist

...they are using their powers only when it matters...not always...so...hard to get...dont mention another theory of mine.....that they are old players...another names...but with the names somehow they have these powers also....and a third theory also

....but thats related to some kind of conspiracy

Post by **Timberwolf** » 04 Dec 2010, 21:18

For what it's worth, here's something I've noticed about the game. I could be wrong, but...

SpeedHack, impossible movement patterns (as in unpredictable and unexpected), quick killing, etc...

I think these are just unfixable factors leftover from Remus' past updates, which were all completed in order to make bad connection players "look" better - i.e. easier to aim at and to kill. (You can still see them better than before - even the worst ones!)

The side effect here is evident, though. Now, instead of a bad connection player hopping from one spot to the other like they're going through a transport, they "skip" packs - and their bad connection makes it delayed.

So when they come at you firing with the adadadadadadadadada, what would normally be a slower side-to-side strafe for a player with okay connection becomes superspeedhack when a player with a bad connection does it.

What you see in front of you, I'm guessing, is the final product of the server relaying the message to you. You're seeing "A" and you're seeing "B" - the spots the player ends up (and quickly!!!!!). What you're not seeing is the in-between route the player is taking to get there, because, as far as I can figure, THE ROUTE DOESN"T EXIST IF IT DOESN'T REGISTER!!!

So it looks fast, and it's hard to kill before it kills you. But it's only "bad" in players with otherwise "BAD" connections. For players with mediocre and kinda sucky connection, it's a huge improvement.

The reason they're able to kill you so quickly now that it looks like SpeedHack or some other cheat is simple: When Remus made these updates in order to see and aim at the bad connections better, ALL PLAYERS received these updates.

So, now, if you were already easier to kill because of your good connection, you're basically just bait now! The updated affected you, too, and now you're also a hell of a lot easier to aim at.

A fix? Not possible. If it were, Remus would have fixed it.

In other words - it's just bad connection, guys. Throw them out of camp if they're screwing it up.

Post by **JackFrost** » 05 Dec 2010, 11:04

what these guys did? as far as i know jack, he is newbie and he mostly has doubt about 90 percent players :)

Thats not correct supreme. i think about 10 to 15% could be a cheater of some-kind ! because there is a lot of software on the net that can be downloaded. but also bad connection can make some seem as if they are cheaters!

when I'm in a game room and i notice! players moving faster then others able to kill quickly or very fast teleporting . i understand it could be one of 3 things ( bad connection-speed hacker- or very good connection) but i watch and do my best so i don't make a wrong evaluation, of what i see. and if it happens over and over in other rooms then i began to be suspicious of what i see. so i gather the facts before i make a Report ! and i watch the chat in rooms! to see what others are saying of these players. so when i joined the forum it was because i wanted to help out. but a lot of players will not report of what they see! because of negative response? harassment, intimidation. so that is why we need more then one report on a player. so a just decision can be made! {but if people sit back and do nothing then the obvious outcome is certain!}

JackFrost

Post by **Timberwolf** » 05 Dec 2010, 11:23

Players with good connection seem slower. The better a player's connection, the "slower" they'll move ("smoother" is a better word, but in live action, choppy movements = fast and smooth = slow)

You can actually see them when they move - the data is intact.

For example: if a player with good connection is coming at you while strafing back and forth, you will see his/her total movements going like a zig-zag. And best of all: you will be able to shoot and hit this player while he/she is moving from A to B.

With bad connections, there is literally nothing in between. They "appear" on either side, not giving you anything to hit in the middle, and that ends up seeming very fast and it's 10x harder to kill because you do not have near as much to shoot at.

Post by **JackFrost** » 05 Dec 2010, 13:08

we must always consider at all times, cheaters will not always use hacking tools, at all times! especially when they think it might get them caught! except the dumb ones? some are not stupid, they will turn on and off the tricks of their trade. ( but Remus has a good point! ) he needs a good reason to banned these guys. this is where others can be a help to him! by Reporting to him of your findings, i have did my part, so has musoi . so the rest of you keep your eyes open and listen to other players see what they are saying talk to them! and do a little investigation of your own and I'm sure you will find the answer.

JackFrost

Post by **Sootie** » 05 Dec 2010, 17:20

Hi Remus. I have suspicions about another turkish player. "crazyhero". I just played him in EGT. Very fast for someone with 1400 odd frags. Also, he was the only player I couldn't spectate. No idea what was going on there...Probably worth checking out.

Post by **JackFrost** » 07 Dec 2010, 19:24

Sootie ( crazyhero0 .....No idea what was going on there...Probably worth checking out.

I just played EGT "crazyhero" was there, and i was able to spectate this player but it took me like 4 times before i could, maybe i misspelled their name. movement was very fast faster then others! i thought ..but i could kill him/her?

JackFrost

Post by **Remus** » 07 Dec 2010, 19:27

JackFrost wrote:I just played EGT "crazyhero" was there, and i was able to spectate this player but it took me like 4 times before i could, maybe i misspelled their name. movement was very fast, faster then others!

Are you 99% sure of that?

Post by **JarJarBinks** » 07 Dec 2010, 21:10

Remus wrote:
musoi wrote:There is no one in administration of the game to take attitude against this gungan and his gang?!!
I'm ready to ban the gungan and his gang.
But I need a reason.
I didn't find him faster than me and I was able to kill him.
I cannot ban the gungan just because he is a Star Wars freak.

Thank you for trusting me Remus

I also was checked by one more administrator Necromanthus and he also said that I am ok, all of you, who reported me, can die in hell

Thanks guys, you are awesome and the best administrators in the world

Post by **John_H** » 08 Dec 2010, 10:07

Post by **musoi** » 08 Dec 2010, 14:59

All entire team StarWars is a big fucking lie ! Something to put children into sleep

...so i would say as respectful as i can...YOU die in hell gungan, whoever you may be...oh yeah...and take there your gang also...whoever they may be...along with your abnormal powers and your superior attitude...and your shitty lies

Post by **Timberwolf** » 08 Dec 2010, 16:04

These Starwars noobs have Turk connections. There's your first hint!

Post by **JarJarBinks** » 08 Dec 2010, 17:03

musoi wrote:All entire team StarWars is a big fucking lie ! Something to put children into sleep ...so i would say as respectful as i can...YOU die in hell gungan, whoever you may be...oh yeah...and take there your gang also...whoever they may be...along with your abnormal powers and your superior attitude...and your shitty lies

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueCVapWJ ... re=related" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Post by **musoi** » 08 Dec 2010, 17:20

Dont know about the connections but i recognize a little bit of their style...hmmm...and this reminds me of old players...friends of mine in the game....

...and by my agressive attitude i was trying to make them throw their masks...but i know who they really are...for a long time...this will remain a secret that ill keep for myself ...still dont want to play them dough until they will come out of their closet up close and personal to me

...thats why im so serious about it gungan...and hey...nice youtube link i really enjoy it

...btw timber...in the end...im pretty sure the connection stuff is a false track to follow...they are having very good connections, believe me

Post by **JackFrost** » 08 Dec 2010, 17:51

Remus wrote:
JackFrost wrote:I just played EGT "crazyhero" was there, and i was able to spectate this player but it took me like 4 times before i could, maybe i misspelled their name. movement was very fast, faster then others!
Are you 99% sure of that?

yes i checked crazyhero out because of Sootie report. and this was my first encounter with this person! and stand on the findings . he was faster ,
but i was able to spectate him after 4 tries and was able to kill him. (speed was the only thing i could find in question. )
99% sure yes.

JackFrost

Post by **Remus** » 08 Dec 2010, 18:01

JackFrost wrote:yes i checked crazyhero out because of Sootie report. and this was my first encounter with this person! and stand on the findings . he was faster ,
but i was able to spectate him after 4 tries and was able to kill him. (speed was the only thing i could find in question. )
99% sure yes.

The main problem is that we don't have any player with the "crazyhero" username ...
But crayzhero got banned.

Post by **JackFrost** » 08 Dec 2010, 18:39

here is photo of me spectateing crayzhero

Post by **Remus** » 08 Dec 2010, 18:43

JackFrost wrote:here is photo of me spectateing crayzhero

John_H was in the same camp.
Can he confirm?

Post by **John_H** » 08 Dec 2010, 18:45

i can only confirm that guy have a bad connection, not a cheater

Post by **JackFrost** » 08 Dec 2010, 18:54

John_H wrote:i can only confirm that guy have a bad connection, not a cheater

I never said he was cheater! i said his speed was very fast.
took 4 times to spectate him...but i was able to do so.
and i could kill him. this report was a follow up on Sootie had Reported !
( Sootie ...I just played him in EGT. Very fast for someone with 1400 odd frags. Also, he was the only player I couldn't spectate. No idea what was going on there...Probably worth checking out.)

JackFrost

Post by **Remus** » 08 Dec 2010, 18:55

John_H wrote:i can only confirm that guy have a bad connection, not a cheater

OK.
crayzhero's account is active again.
But if his connection is horrible, feel free to kick him out of camp.

Post by **John_H** » 08 Dec 2010, 19:46

Will do my best

Post by **Lenny** » 08 Dec 2010, 21:56

If...When...Have...
aliens landed on earth.

If the first human they encountered was Musoi.

GOD HELP THEM.

I'm glad he's my friend

Post by **Lenny** » 08 Dec 2010, 22:11

JarJar it's nothing personal.

It's just your not from around here.

I like that, It's what make this game even more interesting.

Musoi is just playing along, I think,

Post by **musoi** » 09 Dec 2010, 09:16

No Lenny, Musoi is not playing along...yet

Post by **Timberwolf** » 09 Dec 2010, 09:21

they are having very good connections, believe me

Then you can only be talking about 2 people on this entire game!

I being one of them. And I assure you that I'm not gungadin or that jarjabinks.

Starwars is the dumbest movies of all time. I like Rocky!

Post by **gktufb** » 09 Dec 2010, 12:04

remus
babacana uses mafia account
Two players playing an account
I give notice

Post by **Milan** » 09 Dec 2010, 12:17

musoi wrote:Dont know about the connections but i recognize a little bit of their style...hmmm...and this reminds me of old players...friends of mine in the game....and by my agressive attitude i was trying to make them throw their masks...but i know who they really are...for a long time...this will remain a secret that ill keep for myself ...still dont want to play them dough until they will come out of their closet up close and personal to me ...thats why im so serious about it gungan...and hey...nice youtube link i really enjoy it...btw timber...in the end...im pretty sure the connection stuff is a false track to follow...they are having very good connections, believe me

Timberwolf wrote: Then you can only be talking about 2 people on this entire game! I being one of them. And I assure you that I'm not gungadin or that jarjabinks.

Starwars is the dumbest movies of all time. I like Rocky!

Lenny wrote:JarJar it's nothing personal.
It's just your not from around here.
I like that, It's what make this game even more interesting.
Musoi is just playing along, I think

Timber, why are joking with them?

Guys, they are just ordinary players, not some hidden old top players as musoi thinks...

Post by **Remus** » 09 Dec 2010, 12:32

gktufb wrote:remus
babacana uses mafia account
Two players playing an account
I give notice

Thanks for info.
But technically speaking, it's not cheating.
That's bad attitude.

Post by **gktufb** » 09 Dec 2010, 12:46

Remus wrote:
gktufb wrote:remus
babacana uses mafia account
Two players playing an account
I give notice
Thanks for info.
But technically speaking, it's not cheating.
That's bad attitude.

I've only news

Post by **Varex** » 10 Dec 2010, 22:12

remus, I know for a fact that dawids215 is a speed hacker moron. he races across the whole egt map in less than 3 seconds, and he has good connection to.

Post by **Remus** » 10 Dec 2010, 22:21

Varex wrote:remus, I know for a fact that dawids215 is a speed hacker moron. he races across the whole egt map in less than 3 seconds, and he has good connection to.

dawids215 (a cheater from Poland) got banned.
:smash:

Post by **Varex** » 10 Dec 2010, 23:19

thanks remus

Post by **Milan** » 11 Dec 2010, 17:14

hazarberke one more speedhack moron

Post by **Remus** » 11 Dec 2010, 18:22

Milan wrote:hazarberke one more speedhack moron

Another turkish cheater got banned.
:smash:

Post by **Varex** » 12 Dec 2010, 17:26

dani_ipxx is a speed hacker. he went through one way, and when I went to go after him he shot me from another way to go that was behind me.
...does that make since? o.O