Cheaters (aka morons)

Post by **Milan** » 17 Feb 2011, 12:57

ulubatli wrote:Hi Remus,My team is .......... I want to join this tournament, pls add me in the tournament tree..

We need a proof that you can bring 3 players, so far I only see you active and spartacus once per week.
You need one more mate, speak with them and If you can bring them we will include you on tournament

Post by **ulubatli** » 17 Feb 2011, 13:27

Milan wrote:
ulubatli wrote:Hi Remus,My team is .......... I want to join this tournament, pls add me in the tournament tree..
We need a proof that you can bring 3 players, so far I only see you active and spartacus once per week.
You need one more mate, speak with them and If you can bring them we will include you on tournament

Thanks for your invitation, you are so kind but I dunno to have time to play in announced in advance.Because, I play in my clinic only and nowhere else.But I will think, thanks a lot my guy

Post by **Timberwolf** » 21 Feb 2011, 19:18

Well, they've figured out speedhack won't work, so now these morons are switching to 5000HP to play, running around as immortals and not dying.

I've seen about 50 of these in the past two days, but only one actually registered player so far.

And I KNOW it's not just bad connection. I can tell the difference.

Cheat engine uberhealth moron: shadow31337

These moron idiots have no shame. They ALL cheat any way they can cheat!!!

Post by **Remus** » 21 Feb 2011, 19:29

Timberwolf wrote:Cheat engine uberhealth moron: shadow31337

These moron idiots have no shame. They ALL cheat any way they can cheat!!!

shadow31337, a cheater from Saginaw - USA, got banned.

Post by **ulubatli** » 22 Feb 2011, 10:13

nokta uses speedhack, pls ban him.I told him that you have to close all i.e. suckers while playing in the game and he said "don't u know the game rules(?)" then I warned him twice and then nothing changed so I threw him out from the camp

Post by **Remus** » 22 Feb 2011, 10:46

ulubatli wrote:nokta uses speedhack, pls ban him.I told him that you have to close all i.e. suckers while playing in the game and he said "don't u know the game rules(?)" then I warned him twice and then nothing changed so I threw him out from the camp

I didn't find him in the Watchdog log.
speedhack and horrible connection are two different things.
Type > show packs and watch him for 30-60 seconds.
If he is always above 36, he is a speedhack moron.

Post by **ulubatli** » 22 Feb 2011, 12:48

Remus wrote:
ulubatli wrote:nokta uses speedhack, pls ban him.I told him that you have to close all i.e. suckers while playing in the game and he said "don't u know the game rules(?)" then I warned him twice and then nothing changed so I threw him out from the camp
I didn't find him in the Watchdog log.
speedhack and horrible connection are two different things.
Type > show packs and watch him for 30-60 seconds.
If he is always above 36, he is a speedhack moron.

ok got it: waiting, watching and then touch

Post by **xDarkShadowx** » 24 Feb 2011, 00:42

The player by the name "Welano" just used the speed hack and in the text chat it said " Welano is a speed hack moron!" he was then moving extremely quickly across the camp and un-killable. It isn't fair for somebody to cheat it ruins the game.

Thanks!

Post by **ZeronMan** » 24 Feb 2011, 01:24

Can you please check cinayet 17 or cinayet17 I dont know if he had a space between the 17 and cinayet. And he and I were playing and I thought I heard 3 RPG rockets being fired in rapid session (which killed me). Also, I shot at him, respawned, shot at him, respawned and shot at him and yet he didn't die! Even when I was sniping him.

Post by **Timberwolf** » 24 Feb 2011, 07:39

Welano is not a cheater. He just has bad connection.

The same with ciyanet.

Sometimes the watchdog doesn't throw them out for whatever reasons. I'm not familiar enough with the way it works to speak on that. But I still see HORRIBLE internet connections allowed in camp.

They're in a different time. While you're flying around normally, they're stuck in the past. So sometimes their past meets your present, and you get shot after they're dead, or when you're behind a wall, or right after you spawn. Sometimes you hear all their shots coming at once or see them taking all their steps at once.

No way around this. Unfortunately, we have way more bad connections than good connections. The game seems to be marketed most in locales where Internet connection quality isn't as high on the list as other things.

I'm hoping to eventually change that.

Post by **Remus** » 24 Feb 2011, 08:52

Timberwolf wrote:Sometimes the watchdog doesn't throw them out for whatever reasons. I'm not familiar enough with the way it works to speak on that. But I still see HORRIBLE internet connections allowed in camp.

The watchdog kicks out 2 kind of players:
1) speedhackers.
2) players with bad connection who are acting like speedhackers.

Post by **Loll** » 24 Feb 2011, 18:22

Remus wrote:
Timberwolf wrote:Sometimes the watchdog doesn't throw them out for whatever reasons. I'm not familiar enough with the way it works to speak on that. But I still see HORRIBLE internet connections allowed in camp.
The watchdog kicks out 2 kind of players:
1) speedhackers.
2) players with bad connection who are acting like speedhackers.

could you explain "acting like speedhackers", 2 days ago i was kicked out as a hacker, and i never use cheating. it was not pleasant for me, when i came back in the map i had a "welcome back cheater". for the quality of my connection, a few mounth ago we talk about it with jackfrost. i realy like to play hopeless but if i don t find solution, i suppose no one will play with or against me.

for the show pack command, it is like all other commands, i cannot use them because of i dont have this caracter " > " i use an azerty belgian keyboard.

thanks a lot for all

Loll

Post by **supreme** » 24 Feb 2011, 18:49

Loll wrote:
Remus wrote:
Timberwolf wrote:Sometimes the watchdog doesn't throw them out for whatever reasons. I'm not familiar enough with the way it works to speak on that. But I still see HORRIBLE internet connections allowed in camp.
The watchdog kicks out 2 kind of players:
1) speedhackers.
2) players with bad connection who are acting like speedhackers.

could you explain "acting like speedhackers", 2 days ago i was kicked out as a hacker, and i never use cheating. it was not pleasant for me, when i came back in the map i had a "welcome back cheater". for the quality of my connection, a few mounth ago we talk about it with jackfrost. i realy like to play hopeless but if i don t find solution, i suppose no one will play with or against me.

for the show pack command, it is like all other commands, i cannot use them because of i dont have this caracter " > " i use an azerty belgian keyboard.

thanks a lot for all

Loll

hehe Loll, welcome back cheater was a joke. We all know that you are honest player and that was your connection issue. :)

Post by **Remus** » 24 Feb 2011, 18:58

Loll wrote:could you explain "acting like speedhackers", 2 days ago i was kicked out as a hacker, and i never use cheating. it was not pleasant for me, when i came back in the map i had a "welcome back cheater".

Welcome back Loll.

In certain cases (cheap ISP, traffic bottleneck on your route from Belgium to USA, connection suckers: messengers, updaters, etc),
you don't send the data packets in the required time interval.
But in the next time interval you need to "recover the loss".
So you'll send a burst of messages at higher speed.
If the watchdog gets pissed of ...

Don't worry, a honest player cannot be banned.

Post by **Loll** » 24 Feb 2011, 19:53

there is no problem supreme, it was just to dan't put your name. it was you as it could be someone else.

and i also join a team and try my first deathmatch last night... fun but not easy when you are alone...

maybe see you in 2 hours if i am not to tired, i'm at my job

Post by **JackFrost** » 24 Feb 2011, 23:44

Is it possible for players to regenerate faster then other? because i was in FC
and ibrahimzorba Regeneration was like 3 instead of 5! he was very hard to kill also. I;m not saying he is cheater. i just don't understand how that was Happening? this is not the first time with him.
i know the The watchdog kicks out speed-hackers and players with bad connection making them look like speed-hackers. but what about Hacking software that increase Armor and Life extra points! "what do you think"?

Jackfrost: radioactive fallout in The Frozen City can make mutants

Post by **Timberwolf** » 24 Feb 2011, 23:54

Even I've been thrown out of camp as a speedhack moron.

I was DLn tunes and trying to kill fake pros as a player, and "player no.4 is a speedhack moron"

And as far as players respawning faster, this has always been a big problem with bad connections.

I remember playing kurt and having an absolute fit! We would fight face to face, I would die, then he would die 2 seconds later on delay, BUT he would already be spawned before I spawned, shooting me as I tried to figure out wtf was going on!

Here's a general rule: if it's unexplainable, it's just bad connection.

When two separate worlds collide, nobody knows what's going to happen. After two years I STILL see bad connection behaviors that I haven't seen before. It still amazes me just how crazy things can get in camp!

Post by **ZeronMan** » 25 Feb 2011, 00:28

Ah, ok then guess I just gotta cope with the connections out there

Post by **Timberwolf** » 25 Feb 2011, 00:47

Zeron,

Yes and no.

You are on the elite list. You can create your own camp, type in > elite camp, and the only players able to join and play will be those on the elite list.

Granted, that's not a big list at the moment. But as the game progresses, we will have more players on the list.

Post by **ZeronMan** » 25 Feb 2011, 01:08

You are right, and I shall use those powers given to my advantage at filtering out the baddies!!!

Post by **JackFrost** » 03 Mar 2011, 13:40

What is going on with zzaday 31480? this guy takes to many shots he was killing faster then others regenerating too fast too!
not saying he is cheat or hack but it is strange .

Post by **Remus** » 03 Mar 2011, 13:50

JackFrost wrote:What is going on with zzaday 31480? this guy takes to many shots he was killing faster then others regenerating too fast too!
not saying he is cheat or hack but it is strange .

zzaday is from Ankara - Turkey.
I already told you: if their connection is horrible, kick them out of camp.
These players ruin the game anyway.

Post by **JackFrost** » 03 Mar 2011, 14:32

Remus wrote:zzaday is from Ankara - Turkey.
I already told you: if their connection is horrible, kick them out of camp.
These players ruin the game anyway.

OK i will do that. Remus

Post by **serserimuro** » 03 Mar 2011, 17:41

remus I swear why do not cheat suspended

Post by **Remus** » 03 Mar 2011, 17:47

Turkish cheaters in TLT:

turkish_cheaters.jpg

2 players and 3 dead heads.
I got tired of all these cheaters from Turkey.
They all got banned.

Post by **Remus** » 03 Mar 2011, 18:02

TRardaTR wrote:Yes remus
Kronos12 , Hero95 , Hero01 , Serserimuro were talking for teams
And i am listening
Please no ban

2 players and 2 dead heads controlled by the same computers.
You all got banned!
We don't want turkish cheaters here.
bye-bye

Post by **tarayici** » 03 Mar 2011, 18:05

hero95 wrote:
Remus wrote:Turkish cheaters in TLT:
turkish_cheaters.jpg
2 players and 3 dead heads.
I got tired of all these cheaters from Turkey.
They all got banned.

that we are a team with players remus
black_eagle our team
we were talking there, the whole team meeting
and you banladın us
Give us back the account

İ am sur they can't cheater please not banned

Post by **Remus** » 03 Mar 2011, 18:10

tarayici wrote:İ am sur they can't cheater please not banned

I was there!
The same computer controlling 2 players.
BANNED!
I knew from beginning that "Black_Eagle" is a team of cheaters.

p.s.
Take care: today I gave you the bonus (XM-29) for your 500 team matches.
But if you are on the cheaters side ...

Post by **tarayici** » 03 Mar 2011, 18:16

Remus wrote:
tarayici wrote:İ am sur they can't cheater please not banned
I was there!
The same computer controlling 2 players.
BANNED!
I knew from beginning that "Black_Eagle" is a team of cheaters.

p.s.
Take care: today I gave you the bonus (XM-29) for your 500 team matches.
But if you are on the cheaters side ...

Thanks for XM-29 and i am not cheater
İ won't speak on this subject

Post by **kronos12** » 03 Mar 2011, 18:39

We played this game for over a year...

We did not harm anybody...

present it to new players here..

We did not cheat..

Even if I did, this should not be a solution...

Turks players to be bored is not our problem...

I do not mind this is no longer,...

But you did wrong remus...

You did very wrong remus

Post by **kronos12** » 03 Mar 2011, 19:09

Delete my account ... nothing about me I do not want to stay in this game ... not even in the forum remus

Post by **ahmet** » 03 Mar 2011, 19:12

Hi remus; kronos12 very honest players and other players, give them a chance. Thank you ....

Post by **Remus** » 03 Mar 2011, 19:35

ahmet wrote:Hi remus; kronos12 very honest players and other players, give them a chance. Thank you ....

To play in TLT with dead heads does not mean "honest player".
But I gave them another chance.
http://www.infdat.com/hopeless2/HMC.php?op=teams" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Post by **musoi** » 03 Mar 2011, 20:51

Hmmm...chance after chance after chance

....Why you guys dont play fair ?!!...using dead heads, killing eachother in camps in teammatches when you have low health...killing before the match starts...and many many more...cheating is not only about using speedhack programs...cheating is about all the stuff you made deffing the simple rules of honesty...you guys change teams all day long for about one year or so...use all kind of dishonest ways to win some matches...and what place are you on the teams table?!!!

....why dont you take us for example?...we get our asses kicked many times for many reasons ( from bad connecters to cheaters and those who play with all messengers and skypes and downloads open to lower their connection so they can fly and die hard )...we won some matches too...we are close to SECOND place in the WORLD teams table of this game...you know why?...BECAUSE WE MESSENGER OF DEATH ARE PLAYING HONEST

Post by **Remus** » 03 Mar 2011, 21:01

musoi wrote:Hmmm...chance after chance after chance ....Why you guys dont play fair ?!!...using dead heads, killing eachother in camps in teammatches when you have low health...killing before the match starts...and many many more...cheating is not only about using speedhack programs...cheating is about all the stuff you made deffing the simple rules of honesty...you guys change teams all day long for about one year or so...use all kind of dishonest ways to win some matches...and what place are you on the teams table?!!! ....why dont you take us for example?...we get our asses kicked many times for many reasons ( from bad connecters to cheaters and those who play with all messengers and skypes and downloads open to lower their connection so they can fly and die hard )...we won some matches too...we are close to SECOND place in the WORLD teams table of this game...you know why?...BECAUSE WE MESSENGER OF DEATH ARE PLAYING HONEST

Looking at the statistics on 2010, >90% of the cheaters are from Turkey.
Probably a national sport ...
On the other hand, let's take a look at 3 of those 6 players in TLT:
serserimuro : 34185 points
hero01 : 15515 points
TRardaTR : 42110 points
They are awful players and they need dead heads to reach 50,000 points faster.

Post by **kronos12** » 03 Mar 2011, 21:04

musoi wrote:Hmmm...chance after chance after chance ....Why you guys dont play fair ?!!...using dead heads, killing eachother in camps in teammatches when you have low health...killing before the match starts...and many many more...cheating is not only about using speedhack programs...cheating is about all the stuff you made deffing the simple rules of honesty...you guys change teams all day long for about one year or so...use all kind of dishonest ways to win some matches...and what place are you on the teams table?!!! ....why dont you take us for example?...we get our asses kicked many times for many reasons ( from bad connecters to cheaters and those who play with all messengers and skypes and downloads open to lower their connection so they can fly and die hard )...we won some matches too...we are close to SECOND place in the WORLD teams table of this game...you know why?...BECAUSE WE MESSENGER OF DEATH ARE PLAYING HONEST

musoi; If you want honesty Ovidiu and djgeo ask...

I suggest you to read our team rules..

Post by **kronos12** » 03 Mar 2011, 21:10

Remus wrote:
ahmet wrote:Hi remus; kronos12 very honest players and other players, give them a chance. Thank you ....

To play in TLT with dead heads does not mean "honest player".
But I gave them another chance.
http://www.infdat.com/hopeless2/HMC.php?op=teams" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I do not want one more chance...

Delete my account ... nothing about me I do not want to stay in this game ... not even in the forum
I do not want anything about me in this game... delete all....

Post by **kronos12** » 03 Mar 2011, 21:16

Remus wrote:
musoi wrote:Hmmm...chance after chance after chance ....Why you guys dont play fair ?!!...using dead heads, killing eachother in camps in teammatches when you have low health...killing before the match starts...and many many more...cheating is not only about using speedhack programs...cheating is about all the stuff you made deffing the simple rules of honesty...you guys change teams all day long for about one year or so...use all kind of dishonest ways to win some matches...and what place are you on the teams table?!!! ....why dont you take us for example?...we get our asses kicked many times for many reasons ( from bad connecters to cheaters and those who play with all messengers and skypes and downloads open to lower their connection so they can fly and die hard )...we won some matches too...we are close to SECOND place in the WORLD teams table of this game...you know why?...BECAUSE WE MESSENGER OF DEATH ARE PLAYING HONEST
Looking at the statistics on 2010, >90% of the cheaters are from Turkey.
Probably a national sport ...
On the other hand, let's take a look at 3 of those 6 players in TLT:
serserimuro : 34185 points
hero01 : 15515 points
TRardaTR : 42110 points
They are awful players and they need dead heads to reach 50,000 points faster.

they do not bind me... Read the message I wrote two weeks ago Ulubatli.. message box

Post by **Scrappitt** » 03 Mar 2011, 21:23

kronos12, do not disrespect people who have given this FREE game an example of how to behave properly.

You say that you want your account deleted, WHY?
If you don't want to be here then leave. We shall not stop you.

Post by **kronos12** » 03 Mar 2011, 21:29

Scrappitt wrote:kronos12, do not disrespect people who have given this FREE game an example of how to behave properly.

You say that you want your account deleted, WHY?
If you don't want to be here then leave. We shall not stop you.

nothing about me I do not want to stay here...

Post by **Lenny** » 03 Mar 2011, 21:30

With greatness come responsibility

i think Kronos is great and resposible

The rest of his team, Im not to sure about

Simon

Kronos is upset, I can see that

He should slow down though

Kronos slow down

Post by **supreme** » 03 Mar 2011, 21:33

kronos12 wrote:
Scrappitt wrote:kronos12, do not disrespect people who have given this FREE game an example of how to behave properly.

You say that you want your account deleted, WHY?
If you don't want to be here then leave. We shall not stop you.

nothing about me I do not want to stay here...

:) kronos don't act like kids. Remus and all told you politely and explained that why he banned. So now be a good guy and start playing :)

Post by **Remus** » 03 Mar 2011, 21:53

kronos12 wrote:they are children.. error will of course... Your task is to prevent them..You can avoid the same computer to connect to the game 2 times.. you solution did not act like that.

A cheater is a STUPID children!
And if you are a honest player, you must report the cheaters!
One day I had 29 players with the same IP and similar computers.
They were childrens in a school from UK.
All of them HONEST players.
My task is not to waste my time with turkish cheaters!
:smash:

Post by **kronos12** » 03 Mar 2011, 21:53

Lenny wrote:With greatness come responsibility

i think Kronos is great and resposible

The rest of his team, Im not to sure about

Simon

Kronos is upset, I can see that

He should slow down though

Kronos slow down

lenny thak you... You say the right... I lost my temper.. provision for both teams as well as my colleagues...

Post by **kronos12** » 03 Mar 2011, 22:14

supreme wrote:
kronos12 wrote:
Scrappitt wrote:kronos12, do not disrespect people who have given this FREE game an example of how to behave properly.
You say that you want your account deleted, WHY?
If you don't want to be here then leave. We shall not stop you.

nothing about me I do not want to stay here...
:) kronos don't act like kids. Remus and all told you politely and explained that why he banned. So now be a good guy and start playing :)

I did not know you love me so much..
childhood, yes I did

Post by **ZeronMan** » 04 Mar 2011, 01:08

Honestly, the only reason you're mad, is because you want attention and people to feel sorry for you. Well, I'm telling you now: Cut the crap! :smash:

No one feels sorry for you, no one feels the need to pay attention to you. If you feel the need to leave, so be it. Stop trying to make it sound like you're Barack Obama and you're leaving this game! You're also mad, because you KNOW you cheated, and you're trying to cover up for it (which, in fact you're failing miserably at) so if you're going to act like you're Ghandi and that everybody would miss you...piss off.

Post by **Kinho40** » 04 Mar 2011, 02:33

See this guy please..

Post by **Timberwolf** » 04 Mar 2011, 03:52

First one I ever seen who is honest about it!!!

Post by **JackFrost** » 04 Mar 2011, 05:58

I dislike Cheaters, you think your so smart? until you get caught! then you say I'M sorry Remus or I'M not a cheater bad connection today. PC not working right. whatever story you can make up. so all the points you got were not by skill but by trickery! you violate the rules deliberately .

JackFrost: :smash:

Post by **Remus** » 04 Mar 2011, 07:20

Kinho40 wrote:See this guy please..

A "honest" player as you can see.