The BadCon List

Post by **manga** » 10 Nov 2011, 22:51

disfigurement game. this is why many players in this game comfortably leave the Turks left. by doing so you lose no more players can not come to a place

Post by **manga** » 10 Nov 2011, 23:11

Use the game, of course, if your mind your mind

Post by **JackFrost** » 10 Nov 2011, 23:44

Vivek has one of the worst connection, he was voted almost immortal
and still having 100 life and 0 armor hasn't made him normal yet...maybe take away D/S ..and can he buy armor still!

Post by **Lenny** » 11 Nov 2011, 08:57

Remus wrote:
manga wrote:vodafone is large wireless network in Turkey
The mobile phones (with internet connection) and the wireless routers are not suitable for multiplayer games.
They have significant latency.
And in a 1st person shooter the connection latency is critical.

p.s.
There are millions of Vodafone numbers with internet connection in Romania.
But we don't use them to play multiplayer games.

Manga, Why do you blame John_H, Kronos12 and Lenny

When Remus has told you Wireless vodafone network is not suitable to play this game

Post by **John_H** » 11 Nov 2011, 10:10

you are very sick

Post by **manga** » 11 Nov 2011, 11:21

I did not say to Kronos

Post by **manga** » 11 Nov 2011, 11:23

'm not using wodafone. wired connection to my adsl

Post by **manga** » 11 Nov 2011, 11:28

John related to me what the problem is yours, I'm tired of having to deal with people like you

Post by **ahmet** » 12 Nov 2011, 09:49

Hi Remus, I check my connection, my connection is fine, [but bad connection, it is not properly written can not write? Game content also could not write, and elite players who have never written, but my connection is very good, even if the camp is full, I'm writing a very good article, a condition associated with this connection. that is to say, my connection is very good, are properly written text.] (I noticed a lot in the following incident, which claimed to be generally good connections of elite players, you did not defeat me, they say, and almost immediately Your connection sucks They run the forum. please in this matter be fair. 135000 did frag. respect to labor. Remus, I'm not saying this to you. MODERATÖR talking to. have a heart a little.) finally remove me from the list of bad con. Thank you.

Post by **Remus** » 12 Nov 2011, 10:33

ahmet wrote:Hi Remus, I check my connection, my connection is fine, [but bad connection, it is not properly written can not write? Game content also could not write, and elite players who have never written, but my connection is very good, even if the camp is full, I'm writing a very good article, a condition associated with this connection. that is to say, my connection is very good, are properly written text.] (I noticed a lot in the following incident, which claimed to be generally good connections of elite players, you did not defeat me, they say, and almost immediately Your connection sucks They run the forum. please in this matter be fair. 135000 did frag. respect to labor. Remus, I'm not saying this to you. MODERATÖR talking to. have a heart a little.) finally remove me from the list of bad con. Thank you.

10 votes are needed to mark a player with BadCon.
5 votes (from those 10) are needed to remove that player from the BadCon list.

Post by **slapshot** » 12 Nov 2011, 12:46

Remus wrote:
ahmet wrote:Hi Remus, I check my connection, my connection is fine, [but bad connection, it is not properly written can not write? Game content also could not write, and elite players who have never written, but my connection is very good, even if the camp is full, I'm writing a very good article, a condition associated with this connection. that is to say, my connection is very good, are properly written text.] (I noticed a lot in the following incident, which claimed to be generally good connections of elite players, you did not defeat me, they say, and almost immediately Your connection sucks They run the forum. please in this matter be fair. 135000 did frag. respect to labor. Remus, I'm not saying this to you. MODERATÖR talking to. have a heart a little.) finally remove me from the list of bad con. Thank you.

10 votes are needed to mark a player with BadCon.
5 votes (from those 10) are needed to remove that player from the BadCon list.

I would like to see Ahmet get a fair chance. Can anyone else witness his good connection? I would be happy to vote again, but I would like to see his connection or hear from others who have first.

Post by **kronos12** » 12 Nov 2011, 13:05

I do not know my vote is accepted.. but it is a good player..it's moving fast, is hard to hit... so I blame him.. There are some who think that the connection is bad.. I think a good connection..

Post by **JackFrost** » 14 Nov 2011, 08:43

what ever happen to the BadCon rules! BadCon Rules

1)anyone who is on BadCon List must stay on it for 30 days before they can appeal it.
2) BadCon list players are not aloud to vote as long as they remain on the list!
3) it takes ten votes 10 votes to place anyone on list or to remove them.
4) after 30 days a Badcon player must ask Skul or me if they can be removed!
you cannot ask a moderator? because Remus has placed me and Skul in Charge.
5) during a appeal BadCon player must prove that they have fixed there connection issues! and promise to change attitude if this is in question?
6) when a person is removed from list they will be on parole - for 30 days.
if parole is broken they will be place back on list without a vote ever being taken.
7) always remember - very bad connection and attitude can put you right back on BadCon list! for 60 days before another appeal!

its up to you guys what you do?

Post by **JackFrost** » 14 Nov 2011, 08:58

slapshot wrote:
Remus wrote:
ahmet wrote:Hi Remus, I check my connection, my connection is fine, [but bad connection, it is not properly written can not write? Game content also could not write, and elite players who have never written, but my connection is very good, even if the camp is full, I'm writing a very good article, a condition associated with this connection. that is to say, my connection is very good, are properly written text.] (I noticed a lot in the following incident, which claimed to be generally good connections of elite players, you did not defeat me, they say, and almost immediately Your connection sucks They run the forum. please in this matter be fair. 135000 did frag. respect to labor. Remus, I'm not saying this to you. MODERATÖR talking to. have a heart a little.) finally remove me from the list of bad con. Thank you.

10 votes are needed to mark a player with BadCon.
5 votes (from those 10) are needed to remove that player from the BadCon list.

I would like to see Ahmet get a fair chance. Can anyone else witness his good connection? I would be happy to vote again, but I would like to see his connection or hear from others who have first.

remember the rules 2) 1)anyone who is on BadCon List must stay on it for 30 days before they can appeal it. -why are the rules being changed!

Post by **supreme** » 14 Nov 2011, 09:11

JackFrost wrote:
slapshot wrote:
Remus wrote: 10 votes are needed to mark a player with BadCon.
5 votes (from those 10) are needed to remove that player from the BadCon list.

I would like to see Ahmet get a fair chance. Can anyone else witness his good connection? I would be happy to vote again, but I would like to see his connection or hear from others who have first.

remember the rules 2) 1)anyone who is on BadCon List must stay on it for 30 days before they can appeal it. -why are the rules being changed!

because this rule is not finalized by all.
According to me, anyone can ask for checking them after 2 weeks for their connection.
e.g. If I changed my internet today just for game and paying high then i don't want to wait for next 30 days and suffer.

Post by **JackFrost** » 14 Nov 2011, 09:57

Remus wrote:
JackFrost wrote:BadCon Rules
1)anyone who is on BadCon List must stay on it for 30 days before they can appeal it.
2) BadCon list players are not aloud to vote as long as they remain on the list!
3) it takes ten votes 10 votes to place anyone on list or to remove them.
4) after 30 days a Badcon player must ask Skul or me if they can be removed!
you cannot ask a moderator? because Remus has placed me and Skul in Charge.
5) during a appeal BadCon player must prove that they have fixed there connection issues! and promise to change attitude if this is in question?
6) when a person is removed from list they will be on parole - for 30 days.
if parole is broken they will be place back on list without a vote ever being taken.
7) always remember - very bad connection and attitude can put you right back on BadCon list! for 60 days before another appeal!
Remuse are you OK with this or do you wish to make any Changes?
OK

Remus OK the rules 05 Nov 2011, 05:36 ...so what is going on?

Post by **supreme** » 14 Nov 2011, 10:07

JackFrost wrote:
Remus wrote:
JackFrost wrote:BadCon Rules
1)anyone who is on BadCon List must stay on it for 30 days before they can appeal it.
2) BadCon list players are not aloud to vote as long as they remain on the list!
3) it takes ten votes 10 votes to place anyone on list or to remove them.
4) after 30 days a Badcon player must ask Skul or me if they can be removed!
you cannot ask a moderator? because Remus has placed me and Skul in Charge.
5) during a appeal BadCon player must prove that they have fixed there connection issues! and promise to change attitude if this is in question?
6) when a person is removed from list they will be on parole - for 30 days.
if parole is broken they will be place back on list without a vote ever being taken.
7) always remember - very bad connection and attitude can put you right back on BadCon list! for 60 days before another appeal!
Remuse are you OK with this or do you wish to make any Changes?
OK

Remus OK the rules 05 Nov 2011, 05:36 ...so what is going on?

I disagree with rule1 mentioned by you for the reason as stated in above post of mine.

Post by **Scrappitt** » 14 Nov 2011, 10:08

JackF,
Chill out!
Remus is the boss

Post by **JackFrost** » 14 Nov 2011, 10:47

Scrappitt wrote:JackF,
Chill out!
Remus is the boss

Scrappitt- Nobody didn't say Remus wasn't the Boss .
i thought the rules were settled on 05 Nov 2011, 05:36 .
So i will abide by the change in rules.
furthermore i think it is in my best interest to Exclude
myself from further participating, in the BadCon and watchers List .
in this aspect i will have more time to play hopeless 2

Post by **Remus** » 14 Nov 2011, 11:00

supreme wrote:I disagree with rule1 mentioned by you for the reason as stated in above post of mine.

And you already know my "correction" to that rule:
2-4 weeks depending on their improvements and attitude.

Scrappitt wrote:JackF,
Chill out!
Remus is the boss

JackFrost and skul are the leaders here.
But I agree with you, Remus takes care of Scrappitt.

Post by **Scrappitt** » 14 Nov 2011, 13:07

Jack,
Once again cool down, loosen your collar.
Rules are always flexible and lets just remember that this is a game here and they aren't laws.
People come here to relax a little and have fun, not to be told that they are direct violation of rule 16F section 5D of the H2 Gaming Rules Handbook.

Post by **kronos12** » 14 Nov 2011, 14:24

Scrappitt wrote:Jack,
Once again cool down, loosen your collar.
Rules are always flexible and lets just remember that this is a game here and they aren't laws.
People come here to relax a little and have fun, not to be told that they are direct violation of rule 16F section 5D of the H2 Gaming Rules Handbook.

The best answer for all this ridiculous controversy

Post by **Lenny** » 14 Nov 2011, 20:52

I agree Fuat, this is becoming ridiculous controversy,

But

Scrappitt wrote:People come here to relax a little and have fun

If things stay the same, then good con, ok con and bad con, will have no place in this game

Only very very very bad con will exist.

Post by **kronos12** » 15 Nov 2011, 12:30

Lenny wrote:I agree Fuat, this is becoming ridiculous controversy,

But
Scrappitt wrote:People come here to relax a little and have fun
If things stay the same, then good con, ok con and bad con, will have no place in this game

Only very very very bad con will exist.

Post by **vivek** » 16 Nov 2011, 07:11

what is this remus jackfrost not able to kill me he said immortal this is wrong decision appoint this player for watcher my ping 175 ms but he said im immortal u ask other player .other player kill me easily this is not fair remus plz help i m alone in this game.my connection crerates only problem for jack not a other player if i m wrong ask other player he is watcher i never out from this list

Post by **JackFrost** » 16 Nov 2011, 08:04

vivek wrote:what is this remus jackfrost not able to kill me he said immortal this is wrong decision appoint this player for watcher my ping 175 ms but he said im immortal u ask other player .other player kill me easily this is not fair remus plz help i m alone in this game.my connection crerates only problem for jack not a other player if i m wrong ask other player he is watcher i never out from this list

No vivek..i told you that you were voted to be on BadCon List ...and yes i can kill you some! "your somewhat Immortal at times " and please quit asking me to check your connection all the time. and don't ask me to remove you from BadCon- it must be voted on !
as for your connection and attitude i make this recommendation= you are where you need to be , i myself see no reason why you should be removed! you are very able to play game your speed is fast and at times you are very hard to kill. to remove you from list would just make you totally Immortal

Post by **JackFrost** » 16 Nov 2011, 08:09

BadCon Rules
1)anyone who is on BadCon List must stay on it 2-4 weeks depending on their improvements and attitude. before they can appeal it.
2) BadCon list players are not aloud to vote as long as they remain on the list!
3) it takes ten votes 10 votes to place anyone on list or to remove them.
4) after 30 days a Badcon player must ask Skul or me if they can be removed!
you cannot ask a moderator? because Remus has placed me and Skul in Charge.
5) during a appeal BadCon player must prove that they have fixed there connection issues! and promise to change attitude if this is in question?
6) when a person is removed from list they will be on parole - for 30 days.
if parole is broken they will be place back on list without a vote ever being taken.
7) always remember - very bad connection and attitude can put you right back on BadCon list! for 60 days before another appeal!
Remuse are you OK with this or do you wish to make any Changes?

Is this a Correct statement on rule 1)

Post by **Remus** » 16 Nov 2011, 08:48

JackFrost wrote:BadCon Rules
1)anyone who is on BadCon List must stay on it 2-4 weeks depending on their improvements and attitude. before they can appeal it.
2) BadCon list players are not aloud to vote as long as they remain on the list!
3) it takes ten votes 10 votes to place anyone on list or to remove them.
4) after 30 days a Badcon player must ask Skul or me if they can be removed!
you cannot ask a moderator? because Remus has placed me and Skul in Charge.
5) during a appeal BadCon player must prove that they have fixed there connection issues! and promise to change attitude if this is in question?
6) when a person is removed from list they will be on parole - for 30 days.
if parole is broken they will be place back on list without a vote ever being taken.
7) always remember - very bad connection and attitude can put you right back on BadCon list! for 60 days before another appeal!
Remuse are you OK with this or do you wish to make any Changes?

1) OK
2) OK
3) OK
4) 2-4 weeks (see no.1)
5) OK
6) OK
7) OK

4b) they need 5 votes (of those 10) to be removed from the list.

Post by **JackFrost** » 16 Nov 2011, 09:20

BadCon Rules
1)anyone who is on BadCon List must stay on it 2-4 weeks depending on their improvements and attitude. before they can appeal it.
2) BadCon list players are not aloud to vote as long as they remain on the list!
3) it takes ten votes 10 votes to place anyone on list .
4) after 2-4 weeks Badcon player must ask if they can be removed!
they need 5 votes (of those 10) to be removed from the list.
5) during a appeal BadCon player must prove that they have fixed there connection issues! and promise to change attitude if this is in question?
6) when a person is removed from list they will be on parole - for 30 days.
if parole is broken they will be place back on list without a vote ever being taken.
7) always remember - very bad connection and attitude can put you right back on BadCon list! for 60 days before another appeal!

Post by **JackFrost** » 16 Nov 2011, 10:17

Lenny wrote:Remus, can you please explain to me why Manga is not on the BadCon list
His connection has been very bad ever since i started playing this game.
When i tell him his connection is very bad, his reaction is hahaha.
When i tell him he should be on BadCon list, his reaction is hahaha. (+ old player's know what he used to be like one word speedhack)
After all this time he doesn't care that his con is bad, this in my opinion is bad attitude.
Welano & By_zeus should also be on this list.
Ahmet has been put on this list, and now good connection player's are willing to play him, bcoz the game play is alot more equal, this is a good thing.
Not putting Manga, Welano and By_zeus on the BadCon list is totaly unfair and biased, and goes against what the BadCon list is all about (equal playing field for all)
How is it fair on Ahmet, when 1 immortal is put on the list but 3 other immortals are not. It's ridiculous

"Hate"
is a new player to the game (1150 frags) with BadCon and too much knowledge about the game , in my opinion an old immortal with a new account.
Keep an eye on him people.

Lenny ask slapshot to place Manga on watch list or BadCon Ballot to be voted on! remember only very bad connection+ bad attitude or immortal or close to immortal can be put on badcon list

Post by **Timberwolf** » 16 Nov 2011, 10:29

I think this game needs to move to Unity.

With the motion Unity gives you, even a 500ms still "looks" normal. They might lag out, but it's not choppy; it's still smooth. The choppiness of a bad connection here is a huge issue in such a game. You're basically stuck in concrete with the limited movements here, so obviously a bad connection player's movements are going to result in a huge advantage.

On Unity, I think these problems are solved. I have played another FPS a few times, and, yes, that game is also mostly Turkish (Turks love their games haha). But they're noobs on that game.

Post by **JackFrost** » 16 Nov 2011, 10:51

immortals .i recommend taking D/S away because they do not need it!

Post by **JackFrost** » 16 Nov 2011, 11:07

Option for BacCon list of Immortals ! Hopeless 2 has two servers:
( infdat.com Chicago USA )
( necromanthus.com Chicago USA )

I myself have found no one using server necromanthus.com
Should Immortals and or BadCon list players, be put on just this server!
or how can the server be used in a way it can benefit Turkish players ?

Because from my understanding the server is not being used!

Post by **manga** » 16 Nov 2011, 11:16

psychology, both of you have a mental problem (lenny and jackfrost)Leave me alone

Post by **Remus** » 16 Nov 2011, 11:23

Timberwolf wrote:I think this game needs to move to Unity.

With the motion Unity gives you, even a 500ms still "looks" normal. They might lag out, but it's not choppy; it's still smooth. The choppiness of a bad connection here is a huge issue in such a game. You're basically stuck in concrete with the limited movements here, so obviously a bad connection player's movements are going to result in a huge advantage.

On Unity, I think these problems are solved. I have played another FPS a few times, and, yes, that game is also mostly Turkish (Turks love their games haha). But they're noobs on that game.

Really?
1) with 500ms you cannot play any multiplayer game.
At that delay everything is fake.
2) except the image quality, I didn't see anything in that game.
An ordinary FPS with a few features.
I got bored after 10 minutes.
Even the old StykeMC is more complex than the game you are talking about.

3) in this game the motion is very fast. Even so it looks smooth.
4) everything is about the location and the pipes quality of the server.
Of course, the location of the players is very important too.
The turkish players need a server in Europe, but they don't want to pay any cent for it.
There are a few countries with very bad connection to Chicago - USA.
And Turkey is one of them.

p.s.
All the players are noobs in that game. That's why you feel better.

Post by **Remus** » 16 Nov 2011, 11:28

JackFrost wrote:Option for BacCon list of Immortals ! Hopeless 2 has two servers:
I myself have found no one using server necromanthus.com
Should Immortals and or BadCon list players, be put on just this server!
or how can the server be used in a way it can benefit Turkish players ?

Because from my understanding the server is not being used!

necromanthus.com is a backup server.
Both infdat.com and necromanthus.com servers are located in the same place (Chicago),
so it won't make any difference.

Post by **rajput** » 16 Nov 2011, 11:36

i think jackfrost does not kill any player whose name is in bad connection list i played with vivek more time but his connection is good why jack says he is immortal i kill vivek in 2or 3 shots i think jack have any problem with vivek vivek is good attitude jackfrost behave like owner of this game if i remember rules r not only for one player but for all player.

Post by **manga** » 16 Nov 2011, 11:58

JackFrost wrote:
Lenny wrote:Remus, can you please explain to me why Manga is not on the BadCon list
His connection has been very bad ever since i started playing this game.
When i tell him his connection is very bad, his reaction is hahaha.
When i tell him he should be on BadCon list, his reaction is hahaha. (+ old player's know what he used to be like one word speedhack)
After all this time he doesn't care that his con is bad, this in my opinion is bad attitude.
Welano & By_zeus should also be on this list.
Ahmet has been put on this list, and now good connection player's are willing to play him, bcoz the game play is alot more equal, this is a good thing.
Not putting Manga, Welano and By_zeus on the BadCon list is totaly unfair and biased, and goes against what the BadCon list is all about (equal playing field for all)
How is it fair on Ahmet, when 1 immortal is put on the list but 3 other immortals are not. It's ridiculous

"Hate"
is a new player to the game (1150 frags) with BadCon and too much knowledge about the game , in my opinion an old immortal with a new account.
Keep an eye on him people.

Lenny ask slapshot to place Manga on watch list or BadCon Ballot to be voted on! remember only very bad connection+ bad attitude or immortal or close to immortal can be put on badcon list

I'm sorry I did not see Jack I am sorry I did not read literature suborder.

Post by **JackFrost** » 16 Nov 2011, 13:11

manga wrote:psychology, both of you have a mental problem (lenny and jackfrost)Leave me alone

manga i have did nothing to you! i only mention to Lenny about watch list and BadCon list for his information?

Post by **JackFrost** » 16 Nov 2011, 13:25

rajput wrote:i think jackfrost does not kill any player whose name is in bad connection list i played with vivek more time but his connection is good why jack says he is immortal i kill vivek in 2or 3 shots i think jack have any problem with vivek vivek is good attitude jackfrost behave like owner of this game if i remember rules r not only for one player but for all player.

rajput 12 hopeless members voted vivek to be on BadCon list
rating=12 very bad connection and bad attitude . according to voters and reports- he has one of the worst connection + and a bad report of Attitude. will somebody support me in explaining this to rajput!

Post by **manga** » 16 Nov 2011, 14:46

I said yes lenyy

Post by **Lenny** » 16 Nov 2011, 14:56

Post by **manga** » 16 Nov 2011, 16:13

good nıght lenny

hahahah)))))

Post by **slapshot** » 16 Nov 2011, 16:27

rajput wrote:i think jackfrost does not kill any player whose name is in bad connection list i played with vivek more time but his connection is good why jack says he is immortal i kill vivek in 2or 3 shots i think jack have any problem with vivek vivek is good attitude jackfrost behave like owner of this game if i remember rules r not only for one player but for all player.

Rajput, if you read back on this topic to pages 8, 9, 10 you will see that many people voted. In fact, you were voted on as well. There have been many other players who have reported vivek's bad connection. I assure you this is nothing personal.

Post by **Lenny** » 16 Nov 2011, 21:32

Timberwolf wrote:I think this game needs to move to Unity.

With the motion Unity gives you, even a 500ms still "looks" normal. They might lag out, but it's not choppy; it's still smooth. The choppiness of a bad connection here is a huge issue in such a game. You're basically stuck in concrete with the limited movements here, so obviously a bad connection player's movements are going to result in a huge advantage.

On Unity, I think these problems are solved. I have played another FPS a few times, and, yes, that game is also mostly Turkish (Turks love their games haha). But they're noobs on that game.

I agree with Josh, give me a more simple game with equal game play.
Makes total sense to me, then i can kick Richard head's (Manga's) arse.

Post by **Remus** » 16 Nov 2011, 21:55

Lenny wrote:give me a more simple game with equal game play.

That game does not exist.
Why do you think they all ask for more features?

99% of the internet games are almost dead in 6-12 months after their release.
This game is still growing after 2.5 years!
That tells everything.

On the other hand, Unity3D is not prepared for complex projects.
Except the image quality, all the games made with Unity3D are very simple and boring.
Hopeless 2 ported on Unity3D will turn into something unplayable.
The only option is to cut off all its goodies.
And that's something out of question.

This simple benchmark shows one of the biggest problems in Unity3D:
http://www.infdat.com/unity3d/SMC.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Get inside the castle, ignore the FPS value, look up & down and see if the motion is smooth or not.
Maybe next year we'll talk again about a ported version.
Presuming Adobe won't upgrade SW3D ...

Post by **manga** » 17 Nov 2011, 10:39

Lenny wrote:I agree with Josh, give me a more simple game with equal game play.
Makes total sense to me, then i can kick Richard head's (Manga's) arse.

I kick your ass all the time do not worry (lenny) :)))

Post by **Lenny** » 17 Nov 2011, 11:37

Post by **manga** » 17 Nov 2011, 13:22

sweet dreams, no waking up

Post by **slapshot** » 17 Nov 2011, 13:49

Remus wrote:
Lenny wrote:give me a more simple game with equal game play.
That game does not exist.
Why do you think they all ask for more features?

99% of the internet games are almost dead in 6-12 months after their release.
This game is still growing after 2.5 years!
That tells everything.

On the other hand, Unity3D is not prepared for complex projects.
Except the image quality, all the games made with Unity3D are very simple and boring.
Hopeless 2 ported on Unity3D will turn into something unplayable.
The only option is to cut off all its goodies.
And that's something out of question.

This simple benchmark shows one of the biggest problems in Unity3D:
http://www.infdat.com/unity3d/SMC.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Get inside the castle, ignore the FPS value, look up & down and see if the motion is smooth or not.
Maybe next year we'll talk again about a ported version.
Presuming Adobe won't upgrade SW3D ...

I tried this. I've played a few games in Unity and always thought they were decent. But the choppiness in the castle made me dizzy!

Face it, most of this "techno-jargon" is above my limited knowledge (ignorance). So I'm gonna take the bosses word for it.