Server migration (2)

Post by **Remus** » 04 Jun 2010, 08:26

Sorry fellows, bad-good news.
Everything is growing here, the summer vacation is close,
2TB per month bandwidth is not enough anymore.
I'm going to move http://www.infdat.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; on another server (Xeon processor and 4TB per month).
The worldwide propagation will come with troubles for all of us, that's it.
I will let you know when the migration starts (in the next days).

Post by **Milan** » 04 Jun 2010, 09:14

Not again

I hate you.

Where you going to move infdat? (Germany please)

Post by **Remus** » 04 Jun 2010, 09:21

Milan wrote:Where you going to move infdat? (Germany please)

The same location: Chicago - USA.
Everything is mirrored on http://necromanthus.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (daily updated).
In case of big troubles ...
Talking about the 2nd server (Frankfurt - Germany) and the 3rd server (probably India), we need more sponsors.
Everything is for free here, I cannot cover all the costs by myself.

Post by **Timberwolf** » 04 Jun 2010, 11:11

Well, what kind of costs are we talking about?

You know -- if I have to pay money to actually have JUST ONE OR TWO players with good connection to a server that allows me the same type of game experience as everyone else, I'm willing to push the Donate button!

Far too long it has sucked major balls to aim directly at someone, shoot, and have them suddenly blink out of the way before the bullet gets there. I, on the other hand, am a smooth-moving target whom other players, even noobersons, NEVER miss!

So clue me in on servers, how we get them for people, and how we improve gameplay on H2!!!

I'm like the Israel of Hopeless

Post by **Remus** » 04 Jun 2010, 11:42

Timberwolf wrote:Well, what kind of costs are we talking about?

You know -- if I have to pay money to actually have JUST ONE OR TWO players with good connection to a server that allows me the same type of game experience as everyone else, I'm willing to push the Donate button!

So clue me in on servers, how we get them for people, and how we improve gameplay on H2!!!

You cannot afford a dedicated server for a multiplayer 1st person shooter (hundreds of USD per month).
And I don't take any buck from you anyway.

With your always 80ms ping and very good connection, the current servers (Chicago USA) are the best choice.
Your real problem is another one.
To fix it, do the following:
play Kinettera and use the teleporters very often.
There is a 1% chance to be teleported in a small cave (outside the map).
In that cave you'll see a big button: "Buy a decent computer".
Click on it!
Come back and play again with the bad pingers.
They have the same bad connection, but you'll notice a HUGE difference.
The difference between "Timber the frog" and "Timber the prince".

Post by **supreme** » 04 Jun 2010, 12:08

Remus wrote:
Milan wrote:Where you going to move infdat? (Germany please)
The same location: Chicago - USA.
Everything is mirrored on http://necromanthus.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (daily updated).
In case of big troubles ...
Talking about the 2nd server (Frankfurt - Germany) and the 3rd server (probably India), we need more sponsors.
Everything is for free here, I cannot cover all the costs by myself.

:) hi,
how can we get sponsors???

Post by **Timberwolf** » 04 Jun 2010, 12:15

I'm on a refusal to get a better PC!

If folks can play here connected through tin cans and shoe string, then I should be able to play on my basic computer.

So BAN all bad connections! It's simple

Post by **Remus** » 04 Jun 2010, 12:33

Timberwolf wrote:So BAN all bad connections! It's simple

I'm sure you don't want me to do that.
You'll lose most of your friends.

Besides, do you want to play with dumbs and deadheads with good connection?

Post by **Timberwolf** » 04 Jun 2010, 12:45

No offense to my friends with bad connections, of course, but if they suddenly had good connection, then they'd be dumbs and deadheads compared to me anyway!

I'm more Bruce Willis than Bruce Willis.

to me, realize I'm the

of H2, and we won't have a problem...

Post by **Milan** » 04 Jun 2010, 12:49

supreme wrote: :) hi,
how can we get sponsors???

Easy darling, ask electricity company of Pakistan to be our sponsor

Post by **Remus** » 04 Jun 2010, 13:47

And because I like to see only happy people: a new map will be included this month.
Here is a dev screenshot:

Hopeless2_VIP.jpg

Post by **Milan** » 04 Jun 2010, 14:09

Very nice... VIP map, like map for Very Important Player

How big is? Compare to other maps?

Post by **Scrappitt** » 04 Jun 2010, 14:25

I bet there will be a rusty old jeep somewhere in there.

Are there any more spiders as well?

Post by **Remus** » 04 Jun 2010, 14:47

Milan wrote:Very nice... VIP map, like map for Very Important Player
How big is? Compare to other maps?

About x2 TFC.
Very complex map (AZT like, but bigger).

Scrappitt wrote:I bet there will be a rusty old jeep somewhere in there.
Are there any more spiders as well?

Post by **supreme** » 04 Jun 2010, 15:21

Remus wrote:And because I like to see only happy people: a new map will be included this month.
Here is a dev screenshot:
Hopeless2_VIP.jpg

:) good good.. finally i got electricity to speak over here .. hehe

Post by **ZeronMan** » 04 Jun 2010, 21:57

Remus wrote:And because I like to see only happy people: a new map will be included this month.
Here is a dev screenshot:
Hopeless2_VIP.jpg

Nice job Remus

Post by **Remus** » 05 Jun 2010, 16:51

The new server is 100% functional.
Everything (game, databases, forum, etc) has been mirrored.
Tonight (approx 6 hours later) I will change the DNS settings and I will close this forum.
When you'll see an open forum, it means the propagation is complete (for you).
Cursing is allowed in the next days.

Post by **Remus** » 05 Jun 2010, 21:04

90 minutes left.

Challenge Milan and his team of girls from hell.
Now it's your chance!

Post by **Timberwolf** » 06 Jun 2010, 18:11

I'm hoping the experience I had against Kurt and Rambo34 in CTF was due to the server migration.

It was extremely bad

God, I'm so sick of this lol

11 frags and got killed around 60 times.

Yeah, I'm a pro all day

Post by **Remus** » 06 Jun 2010, 18:14

Timberwolf wrote:I'm hoping the experience I had against Kurt and Rambo34 in CTF was due to the server migration.

You played on the necromanthus.com game server.
The propagation is related to http://www.infdat.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.

p.s.
Propagation complete in Romania (less than 12 hours).

Post by **Timberwolf** » 06 Jun 2010, 18:30

So my seeing Rambo in walls and floating in the air and firing 10 shots at once, and Kurt's giant leaps from left to right when shooting, were just basic everyday happenstances of the game and nothing to do with the server?

That's about enough for me...

Post by **Remus** » 06 Jun 2010, 18:45

Timberwolf wrote:So my seeing Rambo in walls and floating in the air and firing 10 shots at once, and Kurt's giant leaps from left to right when shooting, were just basic everyday happenstances of the game and nothing to do with the server?

Why did you select the necromanthus.com game server (not suitable for multiuser games anyway),
if both infdat.com servers are running and still available?

p.s.
70% of the online players are still on the old server.
All these frags are lost.

Post by **Timberwolf** » 06 Jun 2010, 18:56

Well, it was a big mess from the get-go. I wanted to play DM in SMC, but, of course, I didn't get that...

Instead, we had to play CTF in AZT. But when I made a camp, they couldn't find it. When they made a camp, I couldn't find it. Finally, I suggested we try the Necro server, and then we all found each other.

We got to 6-1 in our favor before Kurt and Rambo left. And I've never been so happy to see someone leave!

Kiren was winning on her own, as I was still trying to figure out how Rambo killed me before he even spawned!

All this is why I thought it was the migration...

Post by **Remus** » 06 Jun 2010, 18:59

Timberwolf wrote:We got to 6-1 in our favor before Kurt and Rambo left. And I've never been so happy to see someone leave! Kiren was winning on her own, as I was still trying to figure out how Rambo killed me before he even spawned!

Post by **Remus** » 06 Jun 2010, 19:07

Here is the result for all those with incomplete propagation:
http://208.100.40.160/forum/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Post by **Timberwolf** » 06 Jun 2010, 20:17

Kiren is going hysterical trying to load the game! lmao!

"Josh, check again to see if you can load."

I can.

"Okay, now check again to see if you are loading!"

Yes.

"Check more!"

Mine is done.

"Now check again the forum to see."

Post by **Remus** » 06 Jun 2010, 21:06

Timberwolf wrote:Kiren is going hysterical trying to load the game! lmao!
"Josh, check again to see if you can load."
I can.
"Okay, now check again to see if you are loading!"
Yes.
"Check more!"
Mine is done.
"Now check again the forum to see."

The complete propagation in Pakistan might take 24-48 hours.
Meanwhile tell her to access the forum using this link:
http://208.100.1.31/forum/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Post by **supreme** » 07 Jun 2010, 01:26

Remus wrote:
Timberwolf wrote:Kiren is going hysterical trying to load the game! lmao!
"Josh, check again to see if you can load."
I can.
"Okay, now check again to see if you are loading!"
Yes.
"Check more!"
Mine is done.
"Now check again the forum to see."

The complete propagation in Pakistan might take 24-48 hours.
Meanwhile tell her to access the forum using this link:
http://208.100.1.31/forum/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

hehe , i am back

i can access forum plus login on game page.. i didnt go further to see whether i can play or not.. but i came here to see.. hehe

ty ty.. i can play now.. yes.. dont be jealous okkk..

hehe :)

ty!

Post by **yoxrock** » 07 Jun 2010, 03:01

Remus, se que el servidor esta en migración, pero ¿por qué yo todavía puedo entrar a jugar? y no hay nadie en los campos

...bueno se que todo es para bien, pero espero no se tarde todo esto.

Acaso regresaran nuestros frags xD..ntc

Post by **Remus** » 07 Jun 2010, 03:54

yoxrock wrote:Remus, se que el servidor esta en migración, pero ¿por qué yo todavía puedo entrar a jugar? y no hay nadie en los campos ...bueno se que todo es para bien, pero espero no se tarde todo esto.

Guys, wait for complete propagation and leave me alone.
If your ISP sucks, you have to wait several days.
If you join the old server, you cannot find players.

Even with this mess, the new server had many players today.
Take a look here for example: http://www.infdat.com/hopeless2/FreeTeams.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
32 x TFC Free Teams on june 6th!

Post by **supreme** » 07 Jun 2010, 04:28

Remus wrote:
yoxrock wrote:Remus, se que el servidor esta en migración, pero ¿por qué yo todavía puedo entrar a jugar? y no hay nadie en los campos ...bueno se que todo es para bien, pero espero no se tarde todo esto.
Guys, wait for complete propagation and leave me alone.
If your ISP sucks, you have to wait several days.
If you join the old server, you cannot find players.
Even with this mess, the new server had many players today.
Take a look here for example: http://www.infdat.com/hopeless2/FreeTeams.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
32 x TFC Free Teams on june 6th!

hehe

See Remus loves me more than all of you.. my propagation is done before you all .. hehe

Post by **Milan** » 07 Jun 2010, 05:22

I think that forum time is wrong set up

Usually it was 1 hour more than in my country (Romanian time) and now is 9 hours more (Australian time)

Post by **supreme** » 07 Jun 2010, 05:47

Milan wrote:I think that forum time is wrong set up
Usually it was 1 hour more than in my country (Romanian time) and now is 9 hours more (Australian time)

yes its showing me 10:46am.. but here it is 1:47am

Post by **Remus** » 07 Jun 2010, 05:53

Milan wrote:I think that forum time is wrong set up
Usually it was 1 hour more than in my country (Romanian time) and now is 9 hours more (Australian time)

Not quite.
It's set up to "UTC-5" to show my hour (GMT+2, Bucharest time).

There is something wrong with the PHP installation on this server, but I was extremely busy
with much more important things.
I'm not the developer of this (buggy) phpBB forum anyway.

Post by **Remus** » 07 Jun 2010, 05:56

supreme wrote:yes its showing me 10:46am.. but here it is 1:47am

If you log off, you'll see my hour.
If you want to "tune up" your hour, log in and click on the UCP button.
See "Board preferences / My timezone".

Post by **Timberwolf** » 07 Jun 2010, 17:52

We do know how 'normal' he was before.

Like the strafe move gliding strangely to the left for 50 feet, taking 200 shots directly in the red-aim chest, but somehow mysteriously "avoiding" every bullet without dying?

Post by **Remus** » 07 Jun 2010, 19:05

After almost 48 hours of migration, everything seems to work fine.
But never knows ...

Post by **Milan** » 07 Jun 2010, 21:53

One question, but please don't say: "Milan, leave me alone! I had 2 tough days!"

I know that my ping after migration (as after 1st migration) become "great".
What I don't understand is that after 1st migration all players for me were ghosts, after few days all become cool, but now, when I test ping on http://www.infdat.com/utils/PingTest.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; it's 370ms, on Command Prompt, average is 605ms (tested 10 times and no lost data packets) and the most wierd is that all in camps are normal for me, Simon test my movements and he says it's almost normal, I die regular, I am not kicked out of camp... wierd, no?

Cheers

Post by **ZeronMan** » 07 Jun 2010, 22:08

Hmmm...this forum IS a little messed up. R

ight now, before I replied to this topic, it said that Remus made the last post, when in turn he didn't?

Post by **supreme** » 07 Jun 2010, 22:31

Milan wrote:One question, but please don't say: "Milan, leave me alone! I had 2 tough days!"

I know that my ping after migration (as after 1st migration) become "great".
What I don't understand is that after 1st migration all players for me were ghosts, after few days all become cool, but now, when I test ping on http://www.infdat.com/utils/PingTest.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; it's 370ms, on Command Prompt, average is 605ms (tested 10 times and no lost data packets) and the most wierd is that all in camps are normal for me, Simon test my movements and he says it's almost normal, I die regular, I am not kicked out of camp... wierd, no?

Cheers

haha, i need to check you.. simon do u want to loose another match by sayin tht milan u r normal?? :smash:

haha

Post by **Scrappitt** » 07 Jun 2010, 22:48

supreme wrote:haha, i need to check you.. simon do u want to loose another match by sayin tht milan u r normal??

I actually told him that he was no different to normal.
We do know how 'normal' he was before.

Post by **Remus** » 07 Jun 2010, 23:07

ZeronMan wrote:Hmmm...this forum IS a little messed up. R ight now, before I replied to this topic, it said that Remus made the last post, when in turn he didn't?

Everything should be fixed now.

Post by **ZeronMan** » 08 Jun 2010, 03:22

Apparently not...read this: http://www.infdat.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=545" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Post by **Remus** » 08 Jun 2010, 07:32

ZeronMan wrote:Apparently not...read this: http://www.infdat.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=545" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I said "everything should be fixed NOW".
That topic contains messages posted when the server had wrong time & date.

Post by **ZeronMan** » 09 Jun 2010, 01:04

Thank-you Remy