Monthly Rant
- slapshot
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Monthly Rant
Once again, at the risk of sounding like a pessimist, I'll voice my complaint about the "s-word". Yep, you guessed it, suicide.
Just to be clear:
suicidio
intihar
sebevražda
pagpapakamatay
Selbstmord
suicid
samobójstwo
sinucidere
خودکش
(Apologies if I missed a language or two!)
Now apparently many of you think that this is a viable strategy in this game. For those of us who actually took the time to learn strategies and skills from some of the veterans in this game, I assure you it's not. In fact it's downright cowardly and selfish..
If I work you into a corner and have you beat, and you take one last shot at a wall or your feet with the RPG? WTF??? Really? You can't give up the kill and the weapon? And you think this makes you a better player?
I've got one thing to say: KNOCK IT OFF! Learn to play the game! Take your hit when you have it coming to you!
This is supposed to be fun, not frustrating! So try it. You just might like it!
Just to be clear:
suicidio
intihar
sebevražda
pagpapakamatay
Selbstmord
suicid
samobójstwo
sinucidere
خودکش
(Apologies if I missed a language or two!)
Now apparently many of you think that this is a viable strategy in this game. For those of us who actually took the time to learn strategies and skills from some of the veterans in this game, I assure you it's not. In fact it's downright cowardly and selfish..
If I work you into a corner and have you beat, and you take one last shot at a wall or your feet with the RPG? WTF??? Really? You can't give up the kill and the weapon? And you think this makes you a better player?
I've got one thing to say: KNOCK IT OFF! Learn to play the game! Take your hit when you have it coming to you!
This is supposed to be fun, not frustrating! So try it. You just might like it!
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- Remus
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Re: Monthly Rant
Today I've introduced a penalty for kangaroos: delayed jump.
We love kangaroos, but they are not welcome here.
Maybe you shoud vote for a double penalty for suicide: -2 frags.
p.s.
We love kangaroos, but they are not welcome here.
Maybe you shoud vote for a double penalty for suicide: -2 frags.
p.s.
What do you expect from them, if they behave like this one:slapshot wrote:Now apparently many of you think that this is a viable strategy in this game. For those of us who actually took the time to learn strategies and skills from some of the veterans in this game, I assure you it's not. In fact it's downright cowardly and selfish.
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Haha, thats a good photo.Remus wrote:Today I've introduced a penalty for kangaroos: delayed jump.
We love kangaroos, but they are not welcome here.
Maybe you shoud vote for a double penalty for suicide: -2 frags.
p.s.What do you expect from them, if they behave like this one:slapshot wrote:Now apparently many of you think that this is a viable strategy in this game. For those of us who actually took the time to learn strategies and skills from some of the veterans in this game, I assure you it's not. In fact it's downright cowardly and selfish.
Mentally strong people don't put others down..
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I mind just players who kill themselves intentionally. I think after a certain amount of suicides such players should have no access to rockets and bombs.slapshot wrote:Once again, at the risk of sounding like a pessimist, I'll voice my complaint about the "s-word". Yep, you guessed it, suicide.
Just to be clear:
suicidio
intihar
sebevražda
pagpapakamatay
Selbstmord
suicid
samobójstwo
sinucidere
خودکش
(Apologies if I missed a language or two!)
Now apparently many of you think that this is a viable strategy in this game. For those of us who actually took the time to learn strategies and skills from some of the veterans in this game, I assure you it's not. In fact it's downright cowardly and selfish..
If I work you into a corner and have you beat, and you take one last shot at a wall or your feet with the RPG? WTF??? Really? You can't give up the kill and the weapon? And you think this makes you a better player?
I've got one thing to say: KNOCK IT OFF! Learn to play the game! Take your hit when you have it coming to you!
This is supposed to be fun, not frustrating! So try it. You just might like it!
Mentally strong people don't put others down..
- hawk
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Re: Monthly Rant
I don't know about terminator photo Its more like catminator ,as for these suicide players,I have come across a regular who always uses the rpg7 at close range,and blows himself up as well as myself,only the other day he did this about three or four times to himself and me I think a penalty is in order a loss of frags if done so many times.Remus wrote:Today I've introduced a penalty for kangaroos: delayed jump.
We love kangaroos, but they are not welcome here.
Maybe you shoud vote for a double penalty for suicide: -2 frags.
p.s.What do you expect from them, if they behave like this one:slapshot wrote:Now apparently many of you think that this is a viable strategy in this game. For those of us who actually took the time to learn strategies and skills from some of the veterans in this game, I assure you it's not. In fact it's downright cowardly and selfish.
I always try to change a weapon instead of blowing myself up,wish others would do the same.
Feel the fear and do it anyway
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A certain amount has to be acceptable. And is truly accidental. But the real culprit becomes immediately apparent when the chat box fills with
player x committed suicide
player x committed suicide
player x committed suicide
player x committed suicide
player x committed suicide
And I agree, a -2 frag AND -20 point penalty would be in order.
But this is my personal opinion. Let's hear from the rest of the players.
If the majority thinks this is an acceptable form of stragey, I'll shut up and sit quietly in my corner.
player x committed suicide
player x committed suicide
player x committed suicide
player x committed suicide
player x committed suicide
And I agree, a -2 frag AND -20 point penalty would be in order.
But this is my personal opinion. Let's hear from the rest of the players.
If the majority thinks this is an acceptable form of stragey, I'll shut up and sit quietly in my corner.
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Re: Monthly Rant
Remus wrote:Today I've introduced a penalty for kangaroos: delayed jump.
We love kangaroos, but they are not welcome here.
Maybe you shoud vote for a double penalty for suicide: -2 frags.
p.s.What do you expect from them, if they behave like this one:slapshot wrote:Now apparently many of you think that this is a viable strategy in this game. For those of us who actually took the time to learn strategies and skills from some of the veterans in this game, I assure you it's not. In fact it's downright cowardly and selfish.
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- hawk
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Re: Monthly Rant
I don't think 2 frag is enough,between 5-10 plus 20 points deducted would be better,but how many are allowed before the penalty?slapshot wrote:A certain amount has to be acceptable. And is truly accidental. But the real culprit becomes immediately apparent when the chat box fills with
player x committed suicide
player x committed suicide
player x committed suicide
player x committed suicide
player x committed suicide
And I agree, a -2 frag AND -20 point penalty would be in order.
But this is my personal opinion. Let's hear from the rest of the players.
If the majority thinks this is an acceptable form of stragey, I'll shut up and sit quietly in my corner.
Feel the fear and do it anyway
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Re: Monthly Rant
Remus wrote:Today I've introduced a penalty for kangaroos: delayed jump.
We love kangaroos, but they are not welcome here.
Maybe you shoud vote for a double penalty for suicide: -2 frags.
p.s.What do you expect from them, if they behave like this one:slapshot wrote:Now apparently many of you think that this is a viable strategy in this game. For those of us who actually took the time to learn strategies and skills from some of the veterans in this game, I assure you it's not. In fact it's downright cowardly and selfish.
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Re: Monthly Rant
I did mention about this suicide crap a few months ago. To me it was obvious that this would spread. This weekend I asked a player (can't remember their name) to stop killing themselves, and alianzacopa replied "no".
Also this weekend I kicked 3 player out, for doing the same suicide crap.
If you kick them out in FFA and they re-enter, then they have to collect the weapons again
Also this weekend I kicked 3 player out, for doing the same suicide crap.
If you kick them out in FFA and they re-enter, then they have to collect the weapons again
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Re: Monthly Rant
Minus 2 frags per suicide and automatically kicked out after 3 suicidesLenny wrote:If you kick them out in FFA and they re-enter, then they have to collect the weapons again
Just an idea ...
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Lenny wrote: Also this weekend I kicked 3 player out, for doing the same suicide crap.
If you kick them out in FFA and they re-enter, then they have to collect the weapons again
Ima do that from now on...
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Remus wrote:Minus 2 frags per suicide and automatically kicked out after 3 suicidesLenny wrote:If you kick them out in FFA and they re-enter, then they have to collect the weapons again
Just an idea ...
Make it 4 as it generally takes that many times to really get me cranked!
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That's way too much.slapshot wrote:Make it 4 as it generally takes that many times to really get me cranked!
Most of the players don't do it on purpose.
Why shoud I take them 4 frags for that?
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Yeah, I was thinking that in matches, sometimes I accidentally do it more that twice, maybe three times. But I would agree, 3 times in a FFA session tends to be deliberate.Remus wrote:That's way too much.slapshot wrote:Make it 4 as it generally takes that many times to really get me cranked!
Most of the players don't do it on purpose.
Why shoud it take them 4 frags for that?
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I think with minus 2 frags, most of them will give up.slapshot wrote:Yeah, I was thinking that in matches, sometimes I accidentally do it more that twice, maybe three times. But I would agree, 3 times in a FFA session tends to be deliberate.
And the rest will give up after 3 suicides (they need to log in again).
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Re: Monthly Rant
da asta e foarte bine k foarte multi trag k disperatii sa te omoare nu conteaza k se omoara, sau tragi in el si pe cand sa-l omori se omoara singur
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Re: Monthly Rant
3 suicide = lose rpg & super guns
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Re: Monthly Rant
In FFA this is a minor punishment.Lenny wrote:3 suicide = lose rpg & super guns
It won't help at all.
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I think I like this! I also liked Lenny's "lose the RPG & superguns" idea. It's a great idea, but wouldn't they just exit and re-enter and start all over again?Remus wrote: I think with minus 2 frags, most of them will give up.
And the rest will give up after 3 suicides (they need to log in again).
But being kicked from camp with a comment like "another suicide moron just checked out" and having to log back in with 6 frags less than what they logged in with? NOW we're talking!
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Remus help! Google translator is turning this comment into "mush". What is our friend saying?luptatorul87 wrote:da asta e foarte bine k foarte multi trag k disperatii sa te omoare nu conteaza k se omoara, sau tragi in el si pe cand sa-l omori se omoara singur
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Re: Monthly Rant
Minus 2 frags per suicide and automatically kicked out after 3 suicides
look's fine for me
look's fine for me
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Re: Monthly Rant
Yes, this is very good because many of them are desperate to kill you.slapshot wrote:Remus help! Google translator is turning this comment into "mush". What is our friend saying?luptatorul87 wrote:da asta e foarte bine k foarte multi trag k disperatii sa te omoare nu conteaza k se omoara, sau tragi in el si pe cand sa-l omori se omoara singur
It doesn't matter if they kill a teammate, or they kill themselves.
John_H wrote:Minus 2 frags per suicide and automatically kicked out after 3 suicides
look's fine for me
Here is the new penalty for suicide starting today:
- minus 2 frags
- all the bombs & rockets are lost
- all the Pro weapons ammo is lost
We will decide later (if needed) if they will be kicked out of camp after 3 suicides.
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Remus wrote:Yes, this is very good because many of them are desperate to kill you.slapshot wrote:Remus help! Google translator is turning this comment into "mush". What is our friend saying?luptatorul87 wrote:da asta e foarte bine k foarte multi trag k disperatii sa te omoare nu conteaza k se omoara, sau tragi in el si pe cand sa-l omori se omoara singur
It doesn't matter if they kill a teammate, or they kill themselves.
John_H wrote:Minus 2 frags per suicide and automatically kicked out after 3 suicides
look's fine for me
Here is the new penalty for suicide starting today:
- minus 2 frags
- all the bombs & rockets are lost
- all the Pro weapons ammo is lost
We will decide later (if needed) if they will be kicked out of camp after 3 suicides.
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Re: Monthly Rant
yep kick them outRemus wrote:Yes, this is very good because many of them are desperate to kill you.slapshot wrote:Remus help! Google translator is turning this comment into "mush". What is our friend saying?luptatorul87 wrote:da asta e foarte bine k foarte multi trag k disperatii sa te omoare nu conteaza k se omoara, sau tragi in el si pe cand sa-l omori se omoara singur
It doesn't matter if they kill a teammate, or they kill themselves.
John_H wrote:Minus 2 frags per suicide and automatically kicked out after 3 suicides
look's fine for me
Here is the new penalty for suicide starting today:
- minus 2 frags
- all the bombs & rockets are lost
- all the Pro weapons ammo is lost
We will decide later (if needed) if they will be kicked out of camp after 3 suicides.
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Re: Monthly Rant
-2 is enough!
P.S Sometimes, certain comparisons are quite uncalled for!
Anyways, not playing has nothing to do with a vote here.
A good thought, carried way too much, unnecessarily!
P.S Sometimes, certain comparisons are quite uncalled for!
Anyways, not playing has nothing to do with a vote here.
A good thought, carried way too much, unnecessarily!
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Re: Monthly Rant
Well, well, well!
The no jumping thingy? I thought you were joking about that!
But I tested everything.
First, for the "suicidal-deterrent mechanism":
(My suicide was accidental at first, but later I tried it deliberately).
3 "suicidal boo-boos", and PRESTO! No guns!
Then each time after, deliberate or not, no guns!
It worked excellently!
And of course you can always collect more guns, but the lesson is certainly learned quickly!
Secondly, even if I never realized it, I must have used the jump a lot. The "delayed-jump" (I call it, "Anti-Kangaroo") will definitely take some time to get used to. Especially for players that used jumping consistently. (sorry juan507!) So no more boingy-boingy-boingy like Winnie the Pooh's "Tigger" all over the camp!
But all in all, I really think these changes are going to create more consistency and help even out the game play.
In other words, I like it![/color]
The no jumping thingy? I thought you were joking about that!
But I tested everything.
First, for the "suicidal-deterrent mechanism":
(My suicide was accidental at first, but later I tried it deliberately).
3 "suicidal boo-boos", and PRESTO! No guns!
Then each time after, deliberate or not, no guns!
It worked excellently!
And of course you can always collect more guns, but the lesson is certainly learned quickly!
Secondly, even if I never realized it, I must have used the jump a lot. The "delayed-jump" (I call it, "Anti-Kangaroo") will definitely take some time to get used to. Especially for players that used jumping consistently. (sorry juan507!) So no more boingy-boingy-boingy like Winnie the Pooh's "Tigger" all over the camp!
But all in all, I really think these changes are going to create more consistency and help even out the game play.
In other words, I like it![/color]
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The current approach is more realistic.juan507 wrote:hey Remus why the delayed jumps?
Also it helps the gameplay.
In the real world "strafe + forward" does not exist.
But it's used in any game and I have to live with that.
But bad connections jumping all the time is something that I cannot accept.
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Re: Monthly Rant
Sounds great as I find the players jumping all the time annoying,plus the suicide thing.
This game just gets better
This game just gets better
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Re: Monthly Rant
Just to verify something here . Do we loose our guns immediately after 1st suicide or after 3rd. Because I kill myself today (accidentally) and I lost all of my pro weapons immediately. I thought that 3rd suicide means no guns.
Jumping thing is OK! No more kangaroos
Jumping thing is OK! No more kangaroos
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profesorhr wrote:Just to verify something here . Do we loose our guns immediately after 1st suicide or after 3rd. Because I kill myself today (accidentally) and I lost all of my pro weapons immediately. I thought that 3rd suicide means no guns.
Jumping thing is OK! No more kangaroos
I know this morning you and Topz were killing yourselves all over the place! hehehehe!
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profesorhr wrote:Because I kill myself today (accidentally) and I lost all of my pro weapons immediately.
I bet next time ...
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Re: Monthly Rant
Remus wrote:The current approach is more realistic.juan507 wrote:hey Remus why the delayed jumps?
Also it helps the gameplay.
In the real world "strafe + forward" does not exist.
But it's used in any game and I have to live with that.
But bad connections jumping all the time is something that I cannot accept.
and if u get slowed anytime that u are shooted when u are jumping or running?
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Re: Monthly Rant
If you carry a weapon, you cannot jump like a kangaroo.juan507 wrote:and if u get slowed anytime that u are shooted when u are jumping or running?
That's for sure.
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profesorhr wrote:Just to verify something here . Do we loose our guns immediately after 1st suicide or after 3rd. Because I kill myself today (accidentally) and I lost all of my pro weapons immediately. I thought that 3rd suicide means no guns.
Jumping thing is OK! No more kangaroos
Apparently it's been changed to the FIRST time! I accidentally... well, okay, I DID deliberately jump off the balcony, but I lost my RPG & pro-guns immediately. This is gonna take some getting used to...
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Remus wrote:If you carry a weapon, you cannot jump like a kangaroo.juan507 wrote:and if u get slowed anytime that u are shooted when u are jumping or running?
That's for sure.
Valid point! real soldiers are NOT jumping up and down when they shoot. They only in do that in Quake!
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Re: Monthly Rant
Just read again (more carefully this time):slapshot wrote:Apparently it's been changed to the FIRST time!
"penalty for suicide" does not mean "penalty for 3 suicides".Remus wrote:Here is the new penalty for suicide starting today:
- minus 2 frags
- all the bombs & rockets are lost
- all the Pro weapons ammo is lost
We will decide later (if needed) if they will be kicked out of camp after 3 suicides.
As you can see, I didn't change anything.
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Well so it does read that way!Remus wrote: Just read again (more carefully this time):"penalty for suicide" does not mean "penalty for 3 suicides".Remus wrote:Here is the new penalty for suicide starting today:
- minus 2 frags
- all the bombs & rockets are lost
- all the Pro weapons ammo is lost
We will decide later (if needed) if they will be kicked out of camp after 3 suicides.
As you can see, I didn't change anything.
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Re: Monthly Rant
REMUS la apc nu se poate la agheu sa se faca ceva pui bomba iti arata k o poti pune si te arunca in aer
daca nu e transparenta sa nu te mai arunce in aer
daca nu e transparenta sa nu te mai arunce in aer
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I don't understand.luptatorul87 wrote:REMUS la apc nu se poate la agheu sa se faca ceva pui bomba iti arata k o poti pune si te arunca in aer
daca nu e transparenta sa nu te mai arunce in aer
The rule is the same in all the maps.
Did you find a bug in APC or what?
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Re: Monthly Rant
iese de pe semitransparenta si e alba si te arunca in aer sa se faca ceva dc se poate sa nu mai arate k o poti pune si sa te arunce in aer
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Te rog incearca macar in limba romana sa explici foarte clar.luptatorul87 wrote:iese de pe semitransparenta si e alba si te arunca in aer sa se faca ceva dc se poate sa nu mai arate k o poti pune si sa te arunce in aer
Unde si ce incerci sa faci, pas cu pas.
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Re: Monthly Rant
la apc unde este agheul este un loc unde iti da voie sa anplasezi bomba si de ce te arunca in aer?
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Re: Monthly Rant
bomba nu mai este semitransparenta cand o anplasez si tot ma arunca in aer asta vroiam sa zic
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Re: Monthly Rant
Am verificat si totul este OK.luptatorul87 wrote:la apc unde este agheul este un loc unde iti da voie sa anplasezi bomba si de ce te arunca in aer?
APC este o harta mica si ai foarte putine locatii unde poti amplasa mine.
Cea de langa RPG-7 este una dintre ele, dar conditiile de amplasare sunt foarte stricte.
Gaseste locatia (iconita minei opaca), te opresti, plantezi mina si pleci.
p.s.
Un veteran adevarat nu foloseste mine in APC.
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Re: Monthly Rant
am inteles sefu