Players with bad attitude

[freekarol]

You learnt your lesson fast.

I remember you entering a 8 player camp. Then you immediately turn items off.
I immediately kick you out.
You immediately return, and start to tell me how much your going to f##k me up.
Stop me, if this is too immediate for you.

Maybe you should've have explained to him when it's OK to remove the items and when it's not before kicking his ass. That could stop future verbal fights.

[slapshot]

Jak by to vypadalo, kdyby tu každý psal ve svém rodném jazyce? Takový nový Babylon, že? Každému by se asi líbilo, kdyby tak mohl psát, ale jaksi to nejde... Pro mne je logické použít takový jazyk, v jakém je forum napsané. Takže v německém foru budu psát německy, ve španělském foru španělsky, ve francouzském zase francouzsky a to i přesto, že tolik jazyků neumím. Od toho je tu Google či Bing překladač.

Jako obvykle, máte pravdu, můj přítel.

Chiro, you should post in English, use translate.google.com if your English is not good.

Chiro, debes postear en Inglés, utilice translate.google.com si el Inglés no es suficiente

[Lenny]

Karol, Maybe a player with over 200,000 frags should know these rules.
Look's like chirolaq knows the rule now.

[chirolaq]

again,you,Lenny,had bad attitude.One player with your experience shouldn´t
such behavior.You was rude.
chirolaq.

[chirolaq]

Thanks,Freekarol.That is,exactly,it.

[chirolaq]

I´ll do slap.Sorry.

[Lenny]

again,you,Chirolaq,had bad attitude.One player with your experience (230,000 frags) shouldn´t
such behavior.You was rude.
Lenny.

[freekarol]

Jak by to vypadalo, kdyby tu každý psal ve svém rodném jazyce? Takový nový Babylon, že? Každému by se asi líbilo, kdyby tak mohl psát, ale jaksi to nejde... Pro mne je logické použít takový jazyk, v jakém je forum napsané. Takže v německém foru budu psát německy, ve španělském foru španělsky, ve francouzském zase francouzsky a to i přesto, že tolik jazyků neumím. Od toho je tu Google či Bing překladač.

Jako obvykle, máte pravdu, můj přítel.

Chiro, you should post in English, use translate.google.com if your English is not good.

Chiro, debes postear en Inglés, utilice translate.google.com si el Inglés no es suficiente

haha, you must've had hard time reading my lines via google translator. I checked how good is its translation and well, not much. Google Translator is worse than it's been before.

[chirolaq]

Lenny,there is no moral phenomeno,there is only one interpretation on moral
phenomeno.The only valid rule is the game gives: who occupies the first position in the list has the right to delete items.
You have the power to get me out of camp.
I have the right to delete items because the game gives me.
If I want, I´ll do it again.
You didnt teach me nothing.
you are nothing to me.
You must read Friedrich Nietzche.

[slapshot]

Jak by to vypadalo, kdyby tu každý psal ve svém rodném jazyce? Takový nový Babylon, že? Každému by se asi líbilo, kdyby tak mohl psát, ale jaksi to nejde... Pro mne je logické použít takový jazyk, v jakém je forum napsané. Takže v německém foru budu psát německy, ve španělském foru španělsky, ve francouzském zase francouzsky a to i přesto, že tolik jazyků neumím. Od toho je tu Google či Bing překladač.

Jako obvykle, máte pravdu, můj přítel.

haha, you must've had hard time reading my lines via google translator. I checked how good is its translation and well, not much. Google Translator is worse than it's been before.

How would it look if everyone here wrote in his native language? Such a new Babylon, right? Everyone would probably liked it, if only he could write, but somehow it's not ... For me, the logical use a language in which it is written Forum. So I'll write in German in the German Forum, in the Spanish Forum in Spanish, in the French again in French and this despite the fact that so many languages I don't know. That's what the Google or Bing translator.

Close enough! I understood you perfectly.

[slapshot]

You learnt your lesson fast.

I remember you entering a 8 player camp. Then you immediately turn items off.
I immediately kick you out.
You immediately return, and start to tell me how much your going to f##k me up.
Stop me, if this is too immediate for you.

Lenny,there is no moral phenomeno,there is only one interpretation on moral
phenomeno.The only valid rule is the game gives: who occupies the first position in the list has the right to delete items.
You have the power to get me out of camp.
I have the right to delete items because the game gives me.
If I want, I´ll do it again.
You didnt teach me nothing.
you are nothing to me.
You must read Friedrich Nietzche.

Watching this whole dilemma unfold makes me realize there is an enigma here. I see reason on both sides of this argument.
Lenny feels it is rude to enter a full camp and just because you find yourself at the top of the list, and can evoke the "> items off" command, you should not.
Reason: It's not a camp you started, you should not be changing the rules of the camp.

Yet, chirolaq feels that if you find yourself in the top list position, you have every right to evoke any command.
Reason: I'm the top position. I'm the top dog. My rules govern until someone takes my place on the list.

If my tiny old brain computes this correctly, the argument is
"camp Owner vs camp Originator".

I am curious: what do the rest of the players feel is the best answer?
If you are in the top position, should you evoke "> items off" or similar commands even though you did not open the camp? Or should you respect the players already in the camp by not doing so?

Please voice your opinions on this subject.

[Lenny]

The way Chirolaq used > items off command, was just downright rude. With no thought for the players already in the camp.
The > items off command was never intended to be used that way.

I kicked Chirolaq out of camp. What did he lose?
He had only just entered the camp, he didn't lose anything.
> items off cannot be reversed (no > items on). So the the camp lost all items.
This camp had been open for around an hour.

I could comment on the verbal from Chirolaq, but that don't realy concern me much.
What concerns me is a player with 230,000 acting like he can enter any camp and start to dictate whats going to happen.

[slapshot]

The way Chirolaq used > items off command, was just downright rude. With no thought for the players already in the camp.
The > items off command was never intended to be used that way.

I kicked Chirolaq out of camp. What did he lose?
He had only just entered the camp, he didn't lose anything.
> items off cannot be reversed (no > items on). So the the camp lost all items.
This camp had been open for around an hour.

I could comment on the verbal from Chirolaq, but that don't realy concern me much.
What concerns me is a player with 230,000 acting like he can enter any camp and start to dictate whats going to happen.

An excellent point has been made. This command cannot be reversed. So once evoked, the entire camp loses items for it's remaining life. Whether the person who evoked the command continues to play or not.

[chirolaq]

You learnt your lesson fast.

I remember you entering a 8 player camp. Then you immediately turn items off.
I immediately kick you out.
You immediately return, and start to tell me how much your going to f##k me up.
Stop me, if this is too immediate for you.

Maybe you should've have explained to him when it's OK to remove the items and when it's not before kicking his ass. That could stop future verbal fights.

because this, you are a poor thing.Lenny you must use a little your tongue and not your finger.
surely,Freekarol,would have don it.
Freekarol,makes the difference.

[Remus]

because this, you are a poor thing.Lenny you must use a little your tongue and not your finger.
surely,Freekarol,would have don it.
Freekarol,makes the difference.

Face to face insults (in certain limits) are allowed inside the game.
But not here!


p.s.
And Leon is not a poor mind with big mouth.

[profesorhr]

Lol. Funny thing this forum discussions especialy when one of the Shys is involved

[chirolaq]

Slap,I feel the impulse to tell you why delete items, that day
in WLW.
I was tired of people placing mines in unusual places: at the entrance of the
hotel, in the hotel, in the eaves of the hotel towards bazooca.
All places where I can not put mines.I´ve saw, at least
5 different players put it.
So, when I was in occuping the first position I deleted items.
Sorry, slap. I need to tell "my little story"
Thanks.

[Ace---007]

An excellent point has been made. This command cannot be reversed. So once evoked, the entire camp loses items for it's remaining life. Whether the person who evoked the command continues to play or not.

Remus,
Question: Could an "items on" command be made available? Not a major issue but I've played a few times where I would like to have tuned them on.
Example: A map with mostly beginners who need all the help they can get.

I've also seen camp owners lose connection for a minuet, another player enters removes items plays for 5 minutes and exits never to return. (certainly rude and selfish)

Personally I like the newer players to have items on, it makes me laugh sometimes watching them continually run to the warehouse.

[slapshot]

Slap,I feel the impulse to tell you why delete items, that day
in WLW.
I was tired of people placing mines in unusual places: at the entrance of the
hotel, in the hotel, in the eaves of the hotel towards bazooca.
All places where I can not put mines.I´ve saw, at least
5 different players put it.
So, when I was in occuping the first position I deleted items.
Sorry, slap. I need to tell "my little story"
Thanks.

I too have seen this. i cannot place mines in front of door. But I do not use mines normally. No need for sorry. I am trying to find a good solution for everyone.

[Remus]

I was tired of people placing mines in unusual places:
at the entrance of the hotel, in the hotel, in the eaves of the hotel towards bazooca.
All places where I can not put mines.
I´ve saw, at least 5 different players put it.

Next time take a screenshot and nominate these players.

Remus,
Question: Could an "items on" command be made available? Not a major issue but I've played a few times where I would like to have tuned them on.
Example: A map with mostly beginners who need all the help they can get.

That will mess up all the camps.
Their status need to be ON or OFF (a single change) for the entire life of that camp.

I've also seen camp owners lose connection for a minuet, another player enters removes items plays for 5 minutes and exits never to return. (certainly rude and selfish)

If you want to improve things, you need to nominate these players with bad attitude.

Personally I like the newer players to have items on, it makes me laugh sometimes watching them continually run to the warehouse

Yes, the items cannot be removed in the Beginner camps.

[freekarol]

You learnt your lesson fast.

I remember you entering a 8 player camp. Then you immediately turn items off.
I immediately kick you out.
You immediately return, and start to tell me how much your going to f##k me up.
Stop me, if this is too immediate for you.

Lenny,there is no moral phenomeno,there is only one interpretation on moral
phenomeno.The only valid rule is the game gives: who occupies the first position in the list has the right to delete items.
You have the power to get me out of camp.
I have the right to delete items because the game gives me.
If I want, I´ll do it again.
You didnt teach me nothing.
you are nothing to me.
You must read Friedrich Nietzche.

Watching this whole dilemma unfold makes me realize there is an enigma here. I see reason on both sides of this argument.
Lenny feels it is rude to enter a full camp and just because you find yourself at the top of the list, and can evoke the "> items off" command, you should not.
Reason: It's not a camp you started, you should not be changing the rules of the camp.

Yet, chirolaq feels that if you find yourself in the top list position, you have every right to evoke any command.
Reason: I'm the top position. I'm the top dog. My rules govern until someone takes my place on the list.

If my tiny old brain computes this correctly, the argument is
"camp Owner vs camp Originator".

I am curious: what do the rest of the players feel is the best answer?
If you are in the top position, should you evoke "> items off" or similar commands even though you did not open the camp? Or should you respect the players already in the camp by not doing so?

Please voice your opinions on this subject.

This case shows us that we need a clear rule when to remove items and when not. After that, nobody could argue who was right or who behaved badly...

[Remus]

If my tiny old brain computes this correctly, the argument is
"camp Owner vs camp Originator".

I am curious: what do the rest of the players feel is the best answer?
If you are in the top position, should you evoke "> items off" or similar commands even though you did not open the camp? Or should you respect the players already in the camp by not doing so?

Please voice your opinions on this subject.

I think this discussion is pointless.
Every day, hundreds of players join and leave every camp.
So in 99% of the cases, the "camp originator" does not exist.
The only valid approach is the "current session owner"
And from this point of view, chirolaq is right.


The only exception is this one:

I've also seen camp owners lose connection for a minute, another player enters removes items plays for 5 minutes and exits never to return. (certainly rude and selfish)

In this case, you need to take a screenshot and report these players.
Their in-game chat will be disabled.

[slapshot]

I don't want to read any CRAP from allstar about how "slap left the match" today. Allstar I shot you 10 - 15 times point blank and you never died once. This is a perfect example of how your team manipulates your connection to win matches. I for one will not participate in this. You can play amongst yourselves from now on.

My apologies to freekarol for having to witness my tantrum.

[allstar]

I don't want to read any CRAP from allstar about how "slap left the match" today. Allstar I shot you 10 - 15 times point blank and you never died once. This is a perfect example of how your team manipulates your connection to win matches. I for one will not participate in this. You can play amongst yourselves from now on.

My apologies to freekarol for having to witness my tantrum.

I never did the trick and I'm not going to. It's not up to me, I didn't die, but it could be bad connection at me, I'm sorry. And no longer do not enjoy this game.

[slapshot]

I don't want to read any CRAP from allstar about how "slap left the match" today. Allstar I shot you 10 - 15 times point blank and you never died once. This is a perfect example of how your team manipulates your connection to win matches. I for one will not participate in this. You can play amongst yourselves from now on.

My apologies to freekarol for having to witness my tantrum.

I never did the trick and I'm not going to. It's not up to me, I didn't die, but it could be bad connection at me, I'm sorry. And no longer do not enjoy this game.

I call BULLSHIT. You did manipulate your connection just as you've shared your password since you started this game. Onurkral dies normally and you run away after numerous grenades and 10 - 15 bullets???? Don't give me this crap. It's the rest of the players who no longer enjoy the game because of this behavior.

[freekarol]

I don't want to read any CRAP from allstar about how "slap left the match" today. Allstar I shot you 10 - 15 times point blank and you never died once. This is a perfect example of how your team manipulates your connection to win matches. I for one will not participate in this. You can play amongst yourselves from now on.

My apologies to freekarol for having to witness my tantrum.

np, I understand you...

1.I cant say if Allstar made his connection bad or not. Sometimes he dies normally, sometimes not
2.When I play against players who don't die normally I take it as a patience lesson.

[welano]

In all this time I've played recently, I realized one thing, there are players who do not keep your game regular game day with great skill, and soon after the meeting with the same "player" in another field and he plays with a much lower skill .
Sure it's not the same player, with the passage of time, it is easy to distinguish who is the player because he has his own way of playing.
The headlong rush by frags are doing these players multipliers password, and with a vocabulary that is not worth repeating in this forum.
I confess that I miss the fields with the older players such as Slap, supreme, Topz, Kinho, lenny and many others, although most of the times I was beaten and not kill consiguia not once kkkkkkkkkkkk
Very good, that veterans return to play in free for all ....

[slapshot]

In all this time I've played recently, I realized one thing, there are players who do not keep your game regular game day with great skill, and soon after the meeting with the same "player" in another field and he plays with a much lower skill .
Sure it's not the same player, with the passage of time, it is easy to distinguish who is the player because he has his own way of playing.
The headlong rush by frags are doing these players multipliers password, and with a vocabulary that is not worth repeating in this forum.
I confess that I miss the fields with the older players such as Slap, supreme, Topz, Kinho, lenny and many others, although most of the times I was beaten and not kill consiguia not once kkkkkkkkkkkk
Very good, that veterans return to play in free for all ....

Ola meu amigo Welerson!
We play in early mornings EST, please join us! Often in free team AZT or TFC.

Nós gostamos de jogar manhãs Eastern Standard Time zona cedo, 05:30-06:30 am. (7:30-8:30 seu tempo) Por favor, se juntar a nós no jogo. Desculpem a minha pobre Português.

[welano]

Worries me much legend as a player is CHIROLAG be so impolite , today again he offended me with profanity .
He was angry because was not able to kill o battlefield and began to offend me .
I told him that I do not argue with him anymore , and his anger was because I had killed him 33 times and he could waive the no kill me .
A message for voçe chirolag rude :
" No need to be nervous when you can not kill me , that's part of the game will always be someone better than you , and surely I 'm a better player than you, so kill you so many times , have the decency to admit it , I I'm not ashamed to admit that I can not kill the PRAVEM , the lENNY OR juam , sil they are better than me, more voçe is very bad . they will improve your vocabulary and you understand that more important than your number o for frags is the respect that you have against the other players , so be more HUMBLE .

[chirolaq]

Worries me much legend as a player is CHIROLAG be so impolite , today again he offended me with profanity .
He was angry because was not able to kill o battlefield and began to offend me .
I told him that I do not argue with him anymore , and his anger was because I had killed him 33 times and he could waive the no kill me .
A message for voçe chirolag rude :
" No need to be nervous when you can not kill me , that's part of the game will always be someone better than you , and surely I 'm a better player than you, so kill you so many times , have the decency to admit it , I I'm not ashamed to admit that I can not kill the PRAVEM , the lENNY OR juam , sil they are better than me, more voçe is very bad . they will improve your vocabulary and you understand that more important than your number o for frags is the respect that you have against the other players , so be more HUMBLE .

jajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajjajajajajajajajajajajajaajjajaajajjajajajajajaajajajjaaj

[chirolaq]

Welano,you can kill me all the time that is not the point.Be the first of Hopeless,if you want.Be better than me, if you want.Only dont hide,don´t
use armor.Dont stay all the time in a corner at APC waiting for players.YOU HAVE 290000 frags.You seems a child.I d seen you for about 6 months.You should return many frags.That is all.

[welano]

Welano,you can kill me all the time that is not the point.Be the first of Hopeless,if you want.Be better than me, if you want.Only dont hide,don´t
use armor.Dont stay all the time in a corner at APC waiting for players.YOU HAVE 290000 frags.You seems a child.I d seen you for about 6 months.You should return many frags.That is all.

Weak arguments for a mediocre person.
Fact: you are a bad player
Fact: no education and respect for others
Fact: use the tools that I possibilta game, game strategy only works if you reasons, which is not your case.
Fact: die 33 times in a few minutes,, hummmmm!!!

[freekarol]

Worries me much legend as a player is CHIROLAG be so impolite , today again he offended me with profanity .
He was angry because was not able to kill o battlefield and began to offend me .
I told him that I do not argue with him anymore , and his anger was because I had killed him 33 times and he could waive the no kill me .
A message for voçe chirolag rude :
" No need to be nervous when you can not kill me , that's part of the game will always be someone better than you , and surely I 'm a better player than you, so kill you so many times , have the decency to admit it , I I'm not ashamed to admit that I can not kill the PRAVEM , the lENNY OR juam , sil they are better than me, more voçe is very bad . they will improve your vocabulary and you understand that more important than your number o for frags is the respect that you have against the other players , so be more HUMBLE .

It would be great if you could take a sceenshot. Without a sceenshot it's your words against Chirloaq's words.

Welano,you can kill me all the time that is not the point.Be the first of Hopeless,if you want.Be better than me, if you want.Only dont hide,don´t
use armor.Dont stay all the time in a corner at APC waiting for players.YOU HAVE 290000 frags.You seems a child.I d seen you for about 6 months.You should return many frags.That is all.

I know it's not always easy to be calm playting this game. But if somebody really gets you mad then you can always leave a camp and go somewhere else.

[chirolaq]

Welano,you can kill me all the time that is not the point.Be the first of Hopeless,if you want.Be better than me, if you want.Only dont hide,don´t
use armor.Dont stay all the time in a corner at APC waiting for players.YOU HAVE 290000 frags.You seems a child.I d seen you for about 6 months.You should return many frags.That is all.

Weak arguments for a mediocre person.
Fact: you are a bad player
Fact: no education and respect for others
Fact: use the tools that I possibilta game, game strategy only works if you reasons, which is not your case.
Fact: die 33 times in a few minutes,, hummmmm!!!

I ve weak arguments.
I am a mediocre person.
I ve not reason (game its too big for me)
I die several times in few minutes.

You must get 10 players that agree with that.
only 10.
hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!

[chirolaq]

Thanks,Freekarol.You always with the correct word.

[chirolaq]

Remus,you should create 2 new categories:
Players with honor.
Players without honor.
Everything else is unimportant in life.

[welano]

Welano,you can kill me all the time that is not the point.Be the first of Hopeless,if you want.Be better than me, if you want.Only dont hide,don´t
use armor.Dont stay all the time in a corner at APC waiting for players.YOU HAVE 290000 frags.You seems a child.I d seen you for about 6 months.You should return many frags.That is all.

Weak arguments for a mediocre person.
Fact: you are a bad player
Fact: no education and respect for others
Fact: use the tools that I possibilta game, game strategy only works if you reasons, which is not your case.
Fact: die 33 times in a few minutes,, hummmmm!!!

I ve weak arguments.
I am a mediocre person.
I ve not reason (game its too big for me)
I die several times in few minutes.

You must get 10 players that agree with that.
only 10.
hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!

It is much easier for you to fix these 10 players, just being in his camp and watch you.

[chirolaq]

that is a weak argument,Welano.

[welano]

that is a weak argument,Welano.

You must think I'm going to fight with you here on the forum, because it is wrong, the dialogue can only happen with two people of character and mutual respect, it does not happen between me and you, you have no sense of education and how you are ridiculous.
Continue here, and dropped the mask, and prove how much you fool. negligible.
The man knows when to shut up, enquantos fools (you) do not.

[chirolaq13]

Stop, Welano.Its boring for all us.

[Lenny]

Chirolaq, why open Chirolaq13 account

[chirolaq13]

Because I want to show I dont care frags.I only want to play,have fun.
I only want 4000 frags of chirolaq13.I ve told this to remus.

[chirolaq13]

Lenny,during about 6 month I was on top.Ive been suspected because that.Never, one gratification for so hard work.

[Remus]

Because I want to show I dont care frags.I only want to play,have fun.
I only want 4000 frags of chirolaq13.I ve told this to remus.

If you have fun using a fake game account, that's ok with me.
But the players with multiple game accounts don't help this game and this community.

To open the 2nd forum account (chirolaq13) is something quite stupid.
The "chirolaq13" forum account has been disabled.

Lenny, during about 6 month I was on top.
Ive been suspected because that.Never, one gratification for so hard work

For "gratifications" you need to provide feedback and to help the community.
Did you do it?

[freekarol]

Because I want to show I dont care frags.I only want to play,have fun.
I only want 4000 frags of chirolaq13.I ve told this to remus.

Open a new account just because somebody provokes you? Sometimes is really more important what you think about yourself and and not what others think about you.

If you have fun using a fake game account, that's ok with me.
But the players with multiple game accounts don't help this game and this community.

To open the 2nd forum account (chirolaq13) is something quite stupid.
The "chirolaq13" forum account has been disabled.

I think if he really wants to use another game account and be fair then he wont use both accounts simultaneously.

[chirolaq]

Remus,I was very clear to you: I asked you banned chirolaq´s account.Then I would open another account.
Im so sorry if I did something stupid.I dont want to cause trouble
to the game or community.So clear was that I chose the same name.
I did not ask you for " congratulations ".I was talking about players.
I WILL USE IN GAME ONLY CHIROLAQ13.
EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER

[chirolaq]

Freekarol,my problem its mine.
I will use only chirolaq13.
Ask remus that ban chirolaq account if you want.Np.

[Remus]

Remus,I was very clear to you: I asked you banned chirolaq´s account.Then I would open another account.
Im so sorry if I did something stupid.I dont want to cause trouble
to the game or community.So clear was that I chose the same name.
I did not ask you for " congratulations ".I was talking about players.
I WILL USE IN GAME ONLY CHIROLAQ13.
EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER

chirolaq is your REAL account.
http://www.infdat.com/hopeless2/HMCinfo ... e=chirolaq" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
249844 frags.


chirolaq13 is your new (crappy) account.
http://www.infdat.com/hopeless2/HMCinfo ... chirolaq13" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
4462 frags (and 156 suicides ) all of them this month.

Why should I ban your REAL account?
And why do you want to use a new crappy account?

[chirolaq]

Oh,my god, Remus.Ok, ban chirolaq13.I will go with chirolaq.

[slapshot]

Oh,my god, Remus.Ok, ban chirolaq13.I will go with chirolaq.

Good choice.
Welano is actually a good person. You are a good person. I hope you two can put this issue behind you and become friends.