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Re: The Trash List

Posted: 31 Oct 2011, 10:35
by JackFrost
Voting Results
In my opinion, you should filter the players in this way:
1) "immortals" (they will be marked "trash")
2) very bad connection and bad attitude (they will be marked "trash")
3) very bad connection and good attitude (no penalty, but its useful to know them all).
_________________________________________
List of Immortals
1) "immortals" (they will be marked "trash")
drogba71 1) "immortal"
ThunderClouD 1) "immortal"
juan507 1) "immortal"
nokta 1) "immortals"
__________________________________________________
List of very bad connection and attitude
2) very bad connection and bad attitude (they will be marked "trash")
Killzone100
cagari
xxxfacexxx
virus
turk_askeri
zzaday
scorpio
Pascual
By_Enes
By_Fatih
ReiS_AhmEt_
sedko
vivek
ahmet
allstar
_________________________________________________
List of very bad connection and good attitude
3) very bad connection and good attitude (no penalty )
baybars
batuhan50
_orkun_
rajput
Jennifer
_________________________________________________

Re: The Trash List

Posted: 31 Oct 2011, 10:48
by Remus
JackFrost wrote:1) "immortals" (they will be marked "trash")
drogba71
ThunderClouD
juan507
nokta
http://www.infdat.com/hopeless2/HMCinfos.php?op=extra" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

JackFrost wrote:2) very bad connection and bad attitude (they will be marked "trash")
Killzone100
cagari
xxxfacexxx
virus
turk_askeri
zzaday
scorpio
Pascual
By_Enes
By_Fatih
ReiS_AhmEt_
sedko
vivek
ahmet
allstar
Moderators, please review this list.
A single vote from a moderator is needed to include a player in the Trash list.
:cheers:

Re: The Trash List

Posted: 31 Oct 2011, 10:54
by By_Fatih
Remus wrote:
JackFrost wrote:1) "immortals" (they will be marked "trash")
drogba71
ThunderClouD
juan507
nokta
http://www.infdat.com/hopeless2/HMCinfos.php?op=extra" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

JackFrost wrote:2) very bad connection and bad attitude (they will be marked "trash")
Killzone100
cagari
xxxfacexxx
virus
turk_askeri
zzaday
scorpio
Pascual
By_Enes
By_Fatih
ReiS_AhmEt_
sedko
vivek
ahmet
allstar
Moderators, please review this list.
A single vote from a moderator is needed to include a player in the Trash list.
:cheers:
BAd Atti. Bad Con!

Ha Ha HA!
I Haven'T Bad Atti
Maybe I Have Bad Con But Not Horible!

Re: The Trash List

Posted: 31 Oct 2011, 11:05
by JackFrost
Note: the votes had already been counted and skul made a chart that he is yet to post the link to. and welano did vote and it was counted ! but he changed ballots after it was to late to reedit list. and I'M sorry if you don't like how some voted
i can't help it! - 12 members voted it was up to them how they decided to cast ballots? "if there decisions don't mean nothing" then voting was useless

Those who Voted:
JackFrost Topz007 slapshot skul berkut JohnnyB profesorhr
Belarmino Kinho welano Lenny Sootie

Re: The Trash List

Posted: 31 Oct 2011, 11:17
by Remus
JackFrost wrote:Note: the votes had already been counted and skul made a chart that he is yet to post the link to. and welano did vote and it was counted ! but he changed ballots after it was to late to reedit list. and I'M sorry if you don't like how some voted
i can't help it! - 12 members voted it was up to them how they decided to cast ballots? "if there decisions don't mean nothing" then voting was useless

Those who Voted:
JackFrost Topz007 slapshot skul berkut JohnnyB profesorhr
Belarmino Kinho welano Lenny Sootie
The main problem is that I don't think that virus and ahmet have bad attitude.
And that's just to give only 2 examples.
That's why I need more opinions.
:wink:
On the other hand, the purpose of this list is NOT to punish players.
We're trying to keep the gameplay balanced even with bad connections around.
We're also trying to make the (faithful) players to improve their connection.
This list will remain always open.
Any player can be removed from/added to this list at any moment.

If you find players with very bad connection, just kick them out of camp.
The trash list is about something else.
:wink:

Re: The Trash List

Posted: 31 Oct 2011, 11:19
by Topz007
For me, okay, I just hope that the list could be always updated. Some may improve it and others may worse too.
:wink:
PS:observe the others by_xxxx of the life

Re: The Trash List

Posted: 31 Oct 2011, 11:31
by JackFrost
Here is a Chart it may help?

Re: The Trash List

Posted: 31 Oct 2011, 11:38
by Remus
JackFrost wrote:Here is a Chart it may help?
You did a great job.
:biggthumbsup:
And from now on, you'll be in charge with the Trash list.
But as i stated from beginning, the trash list is for:
1) "immortals"
2) very bad connection and bad attitude.

Your second list shows players with very bad connection.
I totally agree with that.
For the players with very bad connection you have > N out
But I don't see "bad attitude" for a few of those players.
That's why more opinions (the moderators) are always welcome.
:cheers:

Re: The Trash List

Posted: 31 Oct 2011, 12:27
by slapshot
This is a very sensitive subject which is bound to cause bad feelings. To all I have voted on, please understand I do not do this out of malice or ill will. I never mean to hurt any feelings. Those who know me, know this is true. I stand by my votes and believe them to be fair and honest.
:cheers:

To all others who stepped forward to vote: thank you!

And I think JackFrost and skul have both done a very good service to everyone here. :biggthumbsup:

I think this subject needs to be kept active and all that voted should discuss this often. Many players can and will make changes to be removed from the list. I intend to help anyone that I can to remove themselves. In interest of fair play, all others who voted should do the same. For many, simply showing good attitude will remove themselves from this list. Others need to seek a better connection which may prove to be very difficult.

We must all remember this is also a community. A community in which I have met many good people and made very good friends in. I found some of my friends on this list and it was difficult to vote against them. Lets keep this fair and try not to make this a personal issue against someone.
:cheers:

Re: The Trash List

Posted: 31 Oct 2011, 13:03
by Scrappitt
I can't disagree with the bad connections but agree with Remus that Ahmet does not have a bad attitude.
This may change once he finds himself on this list!!!!

:shock:

Re: The Trash List

Posted: 31 Oct 2011, 13:22
by Lenny
Scrappitt wrote:but agree with Remus that Ahmet does not have a bad attitude.
This may change once he finds himself on this list!!!!
:agree: and maybe not the only one, turk_askeri and By_fatih spring to my mind.
This could all go tits up (cheaters everywhere), or you never know (fingers crossed) they could buy a new server.

Re: The Trash List

Posted: 31 Oct 2011, 13:28
by Remus
Lenny wrote: :agree: and maybe not the only one, turk_askeri and By_fatih spring to my mind.
:biggthumbsup:
I was just thinking to give a chance to By_Fatih and turk_askeri.
But if they continue to spam the forum ... :whatis:

Re: The Trash List

Posted: 31 Oct 2011, 14:54
by manga
he will be honesty Remove it from that list? Can he join elite list? İf he will be honesty by_enes

Re: The Trash List

Posted: 31 Oct 2011, 15:46
by By_zeus
JackFrost wrote:Here is a Chart it may help?
remus
ahmet is very good player and good attitude
plz. he hasn't Trash List :cheers:

Re: The Trash List

Posted: 31 Oct 2011, 16:42
by skul
JackFrost wrote:Note: the votes had already been counted and skul made a chart that he is yet to post the link to.
Ok...here we go with the last update with this conversion....
  • 1) "immortals" (they will be marked "trash")
    2) very bad connection and bad attitude (they will be marked "trash")
    3) very bad connection and good attitude (no penalty, but its useful to know them all)

    what was "1" became "3";
    what was "2" remained "2";
    what was "3" and "4" became "1"
The numbers changed just to organize, but the result is the same.

Re: The Trash List

Posted: 31 Oct 2011, 16:59
by Remus
skul wrote:
  • 1) "immortals" (they will be marked "trash")
    2) very bad connection and bad attitude (they will be marked "trash")
    3) very bad connection and good attitude (no penalty, but its useful to know them all)

    what was "1" became "3";
    what was "2" remained "2";
    what was "3" and "4" became "1"
The numbers changed just to organize, but the result is the same.
Not quite.
1) "immortals" = horrible connection
They have been included: http://www.infdat.com/hopeless2/HMCinfos.php?op=extra" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
2) very bad connection and bad attitude (at the same time!)
It's not (3) + (4).
There are players with good attitude in your (3)+(4) list.
And they cannot be marked "trash".
Just kick them out of camp if they have very bad connection.
:wink:

Re: The Trash List

Posted: 31 Oct 2011, 17:33
by drogba71
Remus, what is it ?

Re: The Trash List

Posted: 31 Oct 2011, 17:39
by Remus
drogba71 wrote:Remus, what is it ?
Many players found you with horrible connection every day.
You are close to immortal.
You need to improve your internet connection.
:wink:

Re: The Trash List

Posted: 31 Oct 2011, 17:43
by drogba71
hahaha remus in fact fraudulent foreign players :biggthumbsup:

Re: The Trash List

Posted: 31 Oct 2011, 17:47
by Remus
drogba71 wrote:hahaha remus in fact fraudulent foreign players :biggthumbsup:
Who are the fraudulent foreign players?
:lol:

Re: The Trash List

Posted: 31 Oct 2011, 17:55
by drogba71
Remus have a very :mrgreen:
kınho40 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 ...........
lenny 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 .....................
welano very bad 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 ........ . ...
skul 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 ................
KillZone100 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 ......... :biggthumbsup:
:lol:

Re: The Trash List

Posted: 31 Oct 2011, 20:46
by Remus
JackFrost wrote: 2) very bad connection and bad attitude (they will be marked "trash")
Killzone100
cagari
xxxfacexxx
virus
turk_askeri
zzaday
scorpio
Pascual
By_Enes
By_Fatih
ReiS_AhmEt_
sedko
vivek
ahmet
allstar
The moderators (except slapshot this time :mrgreen: ) did not share their thoughts about this list.
And I bet Milan has something to say about a few players listed here. :twisted:
In any case, two players listed here canNOT be included:
1) virus
I just watched supreme + Timberwolf vs profesorhr + virus
virus is anything you want, but not someone with very bad connection and bad attitude
2) ahmet
This guy has been born with bad connection. :lol:
bad connection + very good player + mods boosts = very hard to kill.
But that doesn't mean very bad connection and bad attitude.

So the moderators will decide if the other listed players get the "trash" label or not.
:cheers:

Re: The Trash List

Posted: 31 Oct 2011, 20:52
by Scrappitt
Scrappitt wrote:I can't disagree with the bad connections but agree with Remus that Ahmet does not have a bad attitude.
This may change once he finds himself on this list!!!!

:shock:
Remus wrote:The moderators (except slapshot this time ) did not share their thoughts about this list.
The list is fine with me except ahmet as stated. I don't know virus very well so will go with Remus on this. :biggthumbsup:

:shock:

Re: The Trash List

Posted: 31 Oct 2011, 21:22
by skul
Scrappitt wrote:
Scrappitt wrote:I can't disagree with the bad connections but agree with Remus that Ahmet does not have a bad attitude.
This may change once he finds himself on this list!!!!
Remus wrote:The moderators (except slapshot this time ) did not share their thoughts about this list.
The list is fine with me except ahmet as stated. I don't know virus very well so will go with Remus on this. :biggthumbsup:

:shock:
  • ahmet should be on Trash List... he got 12 votes of 12 voters to go... :?
    Please Remus consider the votes! ahmet has horrible connection, he IS immortal... this is really really unfair :?
    He got 12 in 12 voters!!!

Re: The Trash List

Posted: 31 Oct 2011, 21:25
by Scrappitt
skul wrote:
  • ahmet should be on Trash List... he got 12 votes of 12 voters to go... :?
    Please Remus consider the votes! ahmet has horrible connection, he IS immortal... this is really really unfair :?
    He got 12 in 12 voters!!!
Remus, this is a strong case

:shock:

Re: The Trash List

Posted: 31 Oct 2011, 21:31
by skul
Scrappitt wrote:
skul wrote:
  • ahmet should be on Trash List... he got 12 votes of 12 voters to go... :?
    Please Remus consider the votes! ahmet has horrible connection, he IS immortal... this is really really unfair :?
    He got 12 in 12 voters!!!
Remus, this is a strong case

:shock:
  • He needs to improve his internet connection to don't be voted!!! It's not personal !! I never talked to him!!! He IS immortal !!

Re: The Trash List

Posted: 31 Oct 2011, 21:44
by Remus
skul wrote:
Scrappitt wrote:
skul wrote:ahmet should be on Trash List... he got 12 votes of 12 voters to go... :?
Please Remus consider the votes! ahmet has horrible connection, he IS immortal... this is really really unfair :?
He got 12 in 12 voters!!
Remus, this is a strong case
He needs to improve his internet connection to don't be voted!!! It's not personal !! I never talked to him!!! He IS immortal !!
OK OK ... I will obey. :mrgreen:

What do think?
Do we give a chance (2 weeks probation) to turk_askeri and By_Fatih?

Re: The Trash List

Posted: 31 Oct 2011, 22:01
by Milan
Remus wrote: And I bet Milan has something to say about a few players listed here. :twisted:
Yeah, I'd have to speak stories about them as Scheherazade 1001 night... Other time.. :lol:
I am fine with this list. Just not virus, he is cool guy and John mate.

p.s. Those numbers 1, 2, 3, 4 and stars (****), are so confusing, I should start reading this topic from the beginning to understand :lol:

p.s.2. I saw many times that game kicked JackFrost out as speedhack, and skul don't have a good connection as well, so this list is worthless by me.

p.s.3. No chance for By_ETC crew :mrgreen:

Re: The Trash List

Posted: 31 Oct 2011, 22:13
by Remus
OK.
http://www.infdat.com/hopeless2/HMCinfos.php?op=extra" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
As I said before, this list will remain always open.
:cheers:

Re: The Trash List

Posted: 31 Oct 2011, 22:17
by skul
Remus wrote:
skul wrote:
Scrappitt wrote: Remus, this is a strong case
He needs to improve his internet connection to don't be voted!!! It's not personal !! I never talked to him!!! He IS immortal !!
OK OK ... I will obey. :mrgreen:

What do think?
Do we give a chance (2 weeks probation) to turk_askeri and By_Fatih?
  • Thank you Remus!

    About these 2 other guys they got 12 votes in 12 voters to go to the list.

Re: The Trash List

Posted: 01 Nov 2011, 01:21
by Topz007
Remus wrote:
JackFrost wrote: 2) very bad connection and bad attitude (they will be marked "trash")
Killzone100
cagari
xxxfacexxx
virus
turk_askeri
zzaday
scorpio
Pascual
By_Enes
By_Fatih
By_Zeus-------urs forgotten
ReiS_AhmEt_
sedko
vivek
ahmet
allstar
The moderators (except slapshot this time :mrgreen: ) did not share their thoughts about this list.
And I bet Milan has something to say about a few players listed here. :twisted:
In any case, two players listed here canNOT be included:
1) virus
I just watched supreme + Timberwolf vs profesorhr + virus
virus is anything you want, but not someone with very bad connection and bad attitude
2) ahmet
This guy has been born with bad connection.
bad connection + very good player + mods boosts = very hard to kill.
But that doesn't mean very bad connection and bad attitude.

So the moderators will decide if the other listed players get the "trash" label or not.
:cheers:
I notice when the guy has a bad connection, when it is sent off with the bullet. When I take one of them, I start to shoot him, do not see anything changing in their health, and it ends up being disconnected from the field.
he is sent off, by bullets :mrgreen:

Re: The Trash List

Posted: 01 Nov 2011, 01:51
by JackFrost
The trash list should be reserved for only the worst players.
And "worst" doesn't just mean connection. It means attitude.

The "Extra" list has 3 columns, only 2 are listed (and processed) now: "Elite" and "Bonus".
http://www.infdat.com/hopeless2/HMCinfos.php?op=extra" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The 3rd one might be the "Trash" list.
For players with VERY bad connection (close to immortals) and bad attitude.
This is the purpose of this topic.

Remus quote: Posted: 17 Oct 2011, 05:20
I didn't decide the penalty for the players with bad attitude & bad connection,
but probably no armor and no life boost (zero armor and no more than 100 life).

The current game version is processing the "Trash" column of this list:
http://www.infdat.com/hopeless2/HMCinfos.php?op=extra" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The accounts marked "trash" have the life limited to 100 and zero armor.

CONNECTIONS LEVELS AND ATTITUDE

1 * "players with very bad connection + good attitude" no trash list
2 ** "players with very bad connection + bad attitude" yes trash list
3 *** "players with worst connection + good or bad attitude" yes trash list
4 **** "players who are Immortals = yes trash list
5 member votes to put anyone on trash list, or to take them off!

Remus said i quote
(For players with VERY bad connection (close to immortals) and bad attitude.)

In my opinion, you should filter the players in this way:
1) "immortals" (they will be marked "trash")
2) very bad connection and bad attitude (they will be marked "trash")
3) very bad connection and good attitude (no penalty, but its useful to know them all).
CONNECTIONS LEVELS AND ATTITUDE
3 *** "players with worst connection + good or bad attitude" yes trash list
For players with VERY bad connection (close to immortals) and bad attitude.
note> worst Connection = close to immortals? these received 3*** ratings
_________________________________________
4 **** "players who are Immortals
drogba71 11-4**** / 1-3*** rating =12 immortal
nokta 7-4**** / 1-3*** / 4-1* rating =12 immortal
ThunderClouD 11-4**** / 1-3*** rating = 12 immortal
juan507 11-4**** / 1-3*** rating = 12 immortal

2 ** "players with very bad connection + bad attitude
Killzone100 6-2** / 4-1* / 2- rating =12 very bad connection and bad attitude
cagari 2-3*** / 8-2** / 1- rating =11 very bad connection and bad attitude
xxxfacexxx 3-3***/ 7-2** / 2-1* rating =12 very bad connection and bad attitude
zzaday 2-3*** /8-2** / 2-1* rating =12 very bad connection and bad attitude
scorpio 3-3*** / 9-2** rating =12 very bad connection and bad attitude
Pascual 2-3*** / 6-2** / 4-1* rating = 12 very bad connection and bad attitude
By_Enes 1-4**** / 3-3*** / 8-2** rating = 12 very bad connection and bad attitude
By_Fatih 4-3*** / 8-2** rating =12 very bad connection and bad attitude
sedko had 9-2**/ 2-3***/ 1-4**** rating =12 very bad connection and bad attitude
vivek had 5- 2**/ 4-3***/ 3-4**** rating=12 very bad connection and bad attitude

3 *** "players with worst connection + good or bad attitude" yes trash list
virus 9-3***/ 3-1* rating =12 worst connection / close to immortals
turk_askeri 1-4***/ 11-3*** rating =12 worst connection / close to immortals
ReiS_AhmEt_ 8-3*** / 2-2** / 2-1* rating =12 worst connection / close to immortals
ahmet had 11-3*** / and 1* rating =12 worst connection / close to immortals
allstar had 8- 3***/ 4-1* rating =12 worst connection / close to immortals

So the question is good or bad attitude! where do you put worst connection players who can have good or bad attitude..with immortals or with bad cnnection?
ahmet worst connection good attitude- close to a immortal!
allstar worst connection and bad attitude.
ReiS_AhmEt_ worst connection and bad attitude.
turk_askeri worst connection and bad attitude.
virus worst connection mistaken for very good connection! - not sure of attitude.
I would say voters did a good job! except we had a misjudgment for
very good connection vs -worst connection! with virus

Re: The Trash List

Posted: 01 Nov 2011, 02:44
by JackFrost
[quote="Milan"]

p.s. Those numbers 1, 2, 3, 4 and stars (****), are so confusing, I should start reading this topic from the beginning to understand :lol:
p.s.2. I saw many times that game kicked JackFrost out as speedhack, and skul don't have a good connection as well, so this list is worthless by me.

Milan the numbers might be confusing, but what do you expect this is the first time we voted this was the first system the next will be very good!

as for the game in past kick me out as a speedhacker if you remember i told you i went from a Ethernet cable to wireless wifi card! it cause me to have lots of problems with my connection: So i in turn did away with it! I now use 2 SlingLink Turbo model SL300-100 HomePlug-Ethernet Adapters. that allows me to connect by network Card through Ethernet cable by wall outlet into SlingLink to router all the way in next room by house wire! why? because my wife has a computer also and it is a small room. so i put my PC in another room but the wifi card made my connection bad and crazy why i don't know! that is why i went to SlinkLink Adapter and my connection-i would say is very good not the best but good. my PC is a Acer aspire T180
Vista Amd Athlon 64 processor 3800+ 2.40 GHZ 3.00 GB RAM 32bit operating system "still room for 1 more GB of Ram" i don't have a graphics Card mine is nvidia on board graphics. but I'm going to to get me a PCI Express Graphic Card soon! that will give me a fast pc + my connection is DSL 3Mbps not to bad. as Lowell Thomas, Jr., said reporting from the globe-prowling Polecat. ... "And that's the way it goes on this polar flight. When you're asleep, ... :biggthumbsup:

Re: The Trash List

Posted: 01 Nov 2011, 06:47
by supreme
JackFrost wrote:The trash list should be reserved for only the worst players.
And "worst" doesn't just mean connection. It means attitude.

The "Extra" list has 3 columns, only 2 are listed (and processed) now: "Elite" and "Bonus".
http://www.infdat.com/hopeless2/HMCinfos.php?op=extra" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The 3rd one might be the "Trash" list.
For players with VERY bad connection (close to immortals) and bad attitude.
This is the purpose of this topic.

Remus quote: Posted: 17 Oct 2011, 05:20
I didn't decide the penalty for the players with bad attitude & bad connection,
but probably no armor and no life boost (zero armor and no more than 100 life).

The current game version is processing the "Trash" column of this list:
http://www.infdat.com/hopeless2/HMCinfos.php?op=extra" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The accounts marked "trash" have the life limited to 100 and zero armor.

CONNECTIONS LEVELS AND ATTITUDE

1 * "players with very bad connection + good attitude" no trash list
2 ** "players with very bad connection + bad attitude" yes trash list
3 *** "players with worst connection + good or bad attitude" yes trash list
4 **** "players who are Immortals = yes trash list
5 member votes to put anyone on trash list, or to take them off!

Remus said i quote
(For players with VERY bad connection (close to immortals) and bad attitude.)

In my opinion, you should filter the players in this way:
1) "immortals" (they will be marked "trash")
2) very bad connection and bad attitude (they will be marked "trash")
3) very bad connection and good attitude (no penalty, but its useful to know them all).
CONNECTIONS LEVELS AND ATTITUDE
3 *** "players with worst connection + good or bad attitude" yes trash list
For players with VERY bad connection (close to immortals) and bad attitude.
note> worst Connection = close to immortals? these received 3*** ratings
_________________________________________
4 **** "players who are Immortals
drogba71 11-4**** / 1-3*** rating =12 immortal
nokta 7-4**** / 1-3*** / 4-1* rating =12 immortal
ThunderClouD 11-4**** / 1-3*** rating = 12 immortal
juan507 11-4**** / 1-3*** rating = 12 immortal

2 ** "players with very bad connection + bad attitude
Killzone100 6-2** / 4-1* / 2- rating =12 very bad connection and bad attitude
cagari 2-3*** / 8-2** / 1- rating =11 very bad connection and bad attitude
xxxfacexxx 3-3***/ 7-2** / 2-1* rating =12 very bad connection and bad attitude
zzaday 2-3*** /8-2** / 2-1* rating =12 very bad connection and bad attitude
scorpio 3-3*** / 9-2** rating =12 very bad connection and bad attitude
Pascual 2-3*** / 6-2** / 4-1* rating = 12 very bad connection and bad attitude
By_Enes 1-4**** / 3-3*** / 8-2** rating = 12 very bad connection and bad attitude
By_Fatih 4-3*** / 8-2** rating =12 very bad connection and bad attitude
sedko had 9-2**/ 2-3***/ 1-4**** rating =12 very bad connection and bad attitude
vivek had 5- 2**/ 4-3***/ 3-4**** rating=12 very bad connection and bad attitude

3 *** "players with worst connection + good or bad attitude" yes trash list
virus 9-3***/ 3-1* rating =12 worst connection / close to immortals
turk_askeri 1-4***/ 11-3*** rating =12 worst connection / close to immortals
ReiS_AhmEt_ 8-3*** / 2-2** / 2-1* rating =12 worst connection / close to immortals
ahmet had 11-3*** / and 1* rating =12 worst connection / close to immortals
allstar had 8- 3***/ 4-1* rating =12 worst connection / close to immortals

So the question is good or bad attitude! where do you put worst connection players who can have good or bad attitude..with immortals or with bad cnnection?
ahmet worst connection good attitude- close to a immortal!
allstar worst connection and bad attitude.
ReiS_AhmEt_ worst connection and bad attitude.
turk_askeri worst connection and bad attitude.
virus worst connection mistaken for very good connection! - not sure of attitude.
I would say voters did a good job! except we had a misjudgment for
very good connection vs -worst connection! with virus
Do we have calculator?????????? :shock: for all these calculations of asteriks and then further conversions?? Scientific calculator won't be able to calculate this.

Re: The Trash List

Posted: 01 Nov 2011, 06:48
by Lenny
I don't see alot if bad attitude in this game, i see alot of bad connection.

This is a shooting game, where the player's who move smooth (good conn) are easy to hit, and the player's with huge gaping casums (bad conn) between one position and the next, quite literally get away with murder. This is where most of the arguments start, and i guess it's the good conn that start's most of them.

So it's right to give the bad conn 100 health and no armor, this should even up the game play, hopefully?.... but it's wrong to base this list on bad attitude, because lets face it most of the arguments start about player's bad conn, and then player's come onto the forum saying this player and that have bad attitude, it's not right because all we have now is a very very biased list.

Connection and attitude wise, can anybody tell me the difference between
Ahmet, Manga and Welano? Yet Ahmet is voted onto the list, Manga cannot be voted on, and Welano?.... well he get's to vote on bad connection :shock:

p.s Remus, you must of caught Virus on a good day, because when ever i see him his connection is bad.

Re: The Trash List

Posted: 01 Nov 2011, 06:58
by Lenny
Oh sorry i forgot to say,
I voted for 3 player's to be put on the trash list for bad attitude not 13 :roll:

Re: The BadCon List

Posted: 01 Nov 2011, 07:47
by JackFrost
I myself decline from being in charge of trash list - Skul will oversee The BadCon List: of course i will help him when he needs me! congratulation Skul

:cheers:

Re: The Trash List

Posted: 01 Nov 2011, 07:55
by JackFrost
supreme wrote:
JackFrost wrote:The trash list should be reserved for only the worst players.
And "worst" doesn't just mean connection. It means attitude.

The "Extra" list has 3 columns, only 2 are listed (and processed) now: "Elite" and "Bonus".
http://www.infdat.com/hopeless2/HMCinfos.php?op=extra" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The 3rd one might be the "Trash" list.
For players with VERY bad connection (close to immortals) and bad attitude.
This is the purpose of this topic.

Remus quote: Posted: 17 Oct 2011, 05:20
I didn't decide the penalty for the players with bad attitude & bad connection,
but probably no armor and no life boost (zero armor and no more than 100 life).

The current game version is processing the "Trash" column of this list:
http://www.infdat.com/hopeless2/HMCinfos.php?op=extra" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The accounts marked "trash" have the life limited to 100 and zero armor.

CONNECTIONS LEVELS AND ATTITUDE

1 * "players with very bad connection + good attitude" no trash list
2 ** "players with very bad connection + bad attitude" yes trash list
3 *** "players with worst connection + good or bad attitude" yes trash list
4 **** "players who are Immortals = yes trash list
5 member votes to put anyone on trash list, or to take them off!

Remus said i quote
(For players with VERY bad connection (close to immortals) and bad attitude.)

In my opinion, you should filter the players in this way:
1) "immortals" (they will be marked "trash")
2) very bad connection and bad attitude (they will be marked "trash")
3) very bad connection and good attitude (no penalty, but its useful to know them all).
CONNECTIONS LEVELS AND ATTITUDE
3 *** "players with worst connection + good or bad attitude" yes trash list
For players with VERY bad connection (close to immortals) and bad attitude.
note> worst Connection = close to immortals? these received 3*** ratings
_________________________________________
4 **** "players who are Immortals
drogba71 11-4**** / 1-3*** rating =12 immortal
nokta 7-4**** / 1-3*** / 4-1* rating =12 immortal
ThunderClouD 11-4**** / 1-3*** rating = 12 immortal
juan507 11-4**** / 1-3*** rating = 12 immortal

2 ** "players with very bad connection + bad attitude
Killzone100 6-2** / 4-1* / 2- rating =12 very bad connection and bad attitude
cagari 2-3*** / 8-2** / 1- rating =11 very bad connection and bad attitude
xxxfacexxx 3-3***/ 7-2** / 2-1* rating =12 very bad connection and bad attitude
zzaday 2-3*** /8-2** / 2-1* rating =12 very bad connection and bad attitude
scorpio 3-3*** / 9-2** rating =12 very bad connection and bad attitude
Pascual 2-3*** / 6-2** / 4-1* rating = 12 very bad connection and bad attitude
By_Enes 1-4**** / 3-3*** / 8-2** rating = 12 very bad connection and bad attitude
By_Fatih 4-3*** / 8-2** rating =12 very bad connection and bad attitude
sedko had 9-2**/ 2-3***/ 1-4**** rating =12 very bad connection and bad attitude
vivek had 5- 2**/ 4-3***/ 3-4**** rating=12 very bad connection and bad attitude

3 *** "players with worst connection + good or bad attitude" yes trash list
virus 9-3***/ 3-1* rating =12 worst connection / close to immortals
turk_askeri 1-4***/ 11-3*** rating =12 worst connection / close to immortals
ReiS_AhmEt_ 8-3*** / 2-2** / 2-1* rating =12 worst connection / close to immortals
ahmet had 11-3*** / and 1* rating =12 worst connection / close to immortals
allstar had 8- 3***/ 4-1* rating =12 worst connection / close to immortals

So the question is good or bad attitude! where do you put worst connection players who can have good or bad attitude..with immortals or with bad cnnection?
ahmet worst connection good attitude- close to a immortal!
allstar worst connection and bad attitude.
ReiS_AhmEt_ worst connection and bad attitude.
turk_askeri worst connection and bad attitude.
virus worst connection mistaken for very good connection! - not sure of attitude.
I would say voters did a good job! except we had a misjudgment for
very good connection vs -worst connection! with virus
Do we have calculator?????????? :shock: for all these calculations of asteriks and then further conversions?? Scientific calculator won't be able to calculate this.
Maybe you need a Nuclear calculator! "Hint" don't press the wrong button, sometime them things can go off -Boom! you will blow the whole place up and redaction will leak into forum! :lol:

Re: The BadCon List

Posted: 01 Nov 2011, 08:17
by JackFrost
I will post this again seeing it was deleted

Milan quote= .p.s.2. I saw many times that game kicked JackFrost out as speedhack, and skul don't have a good connection as well, so this list is worthless by me.

I had issues when i went to wifi wireless. so seeing it was causing problems with my Internet connection. i did away with it . i know use Ethernet cable to my router by slingLink Adapter ....my connection is good now. works great I'm happy with it.

Re: The BadCon List

Posted: 01 Nov 2011, 08:40
by supreme
JackFrost wrote:I will post this again seeing it was deleted

Milan quote= .p.s.2. I saw many times that game kicked JackFrost out as speedhack, and skul don't have a good connection as well, so this list is worthless by me.

I had issues when i went to wifi wireless. so seeing it was causing problems with my Internet connection. i did away with it . i know use Ethernet cable to my router by slingLink Adapter ....my connection is good now. works great I'm happy with it.
your connection is good for you and you are happy , in same way ahmet and many others are happy. I am sorry to say that you have issues as well and there would might be some times when you don't have. Whenever I saw you, you had connection issues. :cheers:
And i have to admit your efforts as well that you brought up this topic for game improvement so that disappointed players can get life by knowing connection stuff.
:cheers:

Re: The BadCon List

Posted: 01 Nov 2011, 08:42
by By_Fatih
I Dont Understand ..

MY Con MEdium NOT BAD Remus..
İf I Bad CON

All Turk Have BAD CON!
I Live İn İstanbul So When .Make TR Server Turk Con İs Good

So Plz Understand Me.

Re: The Trash List

Posted: 01 Nov 2011, 08:43
by turk_askeri
Remus wrote:
Lenny wrote: :agree: and maybe not the only one, turk_askeri and By_fatih spring to my mind.
:biggthumbsup:
I was just thinking to give a chance to By_Fatih and turk_askeri.
But if they continue to spam the forum ... :whatis:
but why now me and By_Fatih are on the Trash List ?

Re: The BadCon List

Posted: 01 Nov 2011, 08:46
by Remus
By_Fatih wrote:I Dont Understand ..

MY Con MEdium NOT BAD Remus..
İf I Bad CON

All Turk Have BAD CON!
I Live İn İstanbul So When .Make TR Server Turk Con İs Good

So Plz Understand Me.
I asked for a chance (two weeks probation) for turk_askeri and By_Fatih.
They did not accept it.
Be patient, behave nice, don't spam the forum and you'll be removed soon from this list.
:wink:

Re: The Trash List

Posted: 01 Nov 2011, 08:47
by supreme
turk_askeri wrote:
Remus wrote:
Lenny wrote: and maybe not the only one, turk_askeri and By_fatih spring to my mind.
I was just thinking to give a chance to By_Fatih and turk_askeri.
But if they continue to spam the forum ... :whatis:
but why now me and By_Fatih are on the Trash List ?
because of your past and present. We cannot believe in a day or few days that you guys are not spammer or bad attitude. So reason could be spammer + connection. Improve these things and you will be out of trash list. :pompom:

p.s: we cannot believe you guys in a week. There would be atleast 1 month observation period :)
:cheers:

Re: The BadCon List

Posted: 01 Nov 2011, 09:15
by Lenny
Remus,
100 health and no armor, Maybe a mode reduction of 10 or 20%? i think 15% would be fair, and only 50% armor. I think this leaves the player with more options, like which character and buy armor more often.
100 health and no armor is,
1- treating new and old players the same
2- taking alot of diversity out of the game for these player's

I for one don't want these player's to leave and never come back, or leave and open a new account.

:cheers:

Re: The BadCon List

Posted: 01 Nov 2011, 09:30
by Remus
Lenny wrote:Remus,
100 health and no armor, Maybe a mode reduction of 10 or 20%? i think 15% would be fair, and only 50% armor. I think this leaves the player with more options, like which character and buy armor more often.
100 health and no armor is,
1- treating new and old players the same
2- taking alot of diversity out of the game for these player's

I for one don't want these player's to leave and never come back, or leave and open a new account.
They are limited to 100 health (the life mod boost is ignored).
They get zero armor from character, but if they buy the Kevlar vest, they get 100 armor!
All the other mods are untouched.
How many times do you (or any other player with good connection) reach 140-160 life during the game?
If I give them 120 life, this list becomes worthless.
Anyway, I'm open to any good idea.
:cheers:

Re: The BadCon List

Posted: 01 Nov 2011, 09:42
by ahmet
I do not understand you. I mean you do not have to treat well. do not understand goodness. "KİNHO" problematic, I am a professional actor. So my "Kinho" bind. "KİNHO" EXCUSES ARE NOW CONNECTION. REMUS OL FAIR. YOU HAVE A COMPLAINT me CAME TO THIS TIME? ANY PLAYER OR CAN I cursed? In contrast, you tell me NO ONE. SO WILL LEAVE THIS GAME. Got it ... "SKUL AND KİNHO"

Re: The BadCon List

Posted: 01 Nov 2011, 09:50
by Remus
ahmet wrote:I do not understand you. I mean you do not have to treat well. do not understand goodness. "KİNHO" problematic, I am a professional actor. So my "Kinho" bind. "KİNHO" EXCUSES ARE NOW CONNECTION. REMUS OL FAIR. YOU HAVE A COMPLAINT me CAME TO THIS TIME? ANY PLAYER OR CAN I cursed? In contrast, you tell me NO ONE. SO WILL LEAVE THIS GAME. Got it ... "SKUL AND KİNHO"
Ahmet,

I was always on your side because you are a good player with good attitude.
:biggthumbsup:
But they all said you are one of the "immortals" (horrible connection).
Try to improve your connection (no wireless router, better antivirus, no internet suckers).
Until then, don't give up!
Take this 100 health limit as a new challenge.
:cheers:

Re: The BadCon List

Posted: 01 Nov 2011, 10:04
by By_Fatih
Remus Plz %10 Plz Health.

Re: The BadCon List

Posted: 01 Nov 2011, 10:17
by Remus
By_Fatih wrote:Remus Plz %10 Plz Health.
Even limited to 100 health, you won the team matches. :lol:
http://www.infdat.com/hopeless2/DeathMatch.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Improve your connection, behave nice and you will be removed from this list.
:biggthumbsup: