Hopeless 2 Forum

slapshot wrote:Agreed!
I think that JackFrost and Skul are excellent representatives ...

Thank you slapshot! You too! Your are excellent representative as a moderator!! You fit just perferct in this position!!

I hereby nominate By_Sheikh for the BadCon List. (He is actually By_Fatih reincarnated).

I think an immediate vote is in order. I recommend the same credentials that were used in the previous vote.

All voters please discuss here.

slapshot wrote:I hereby nominate By_Sheikh for the BadCon List. (He is actually By_Fatih reincarnated).

I think an immediate vote is in order. I recommend the same credentials that were used in the previous vote.

All voters please discuss here.

• I think all accounts starting with "By_" should be deleted !!
  
  And all new accounts starting with "By_" should not be allowed !!
  
  As soon as possible!!

skul wrote:And all new accounts starting with "By_" should not be allowed !!

As soon as possible!!

You should think twice.
That's a bad idea and it won't change anything anyway.

Remus wrote:

skul wrote:And all new accounts starting with "By_" should not be allowed !!

As soon as possible!!

You should think twice.
That's a bad idea and it won't change anything anyway.

Your are very right! I forgot "By_Zeus" ! He is a good guy!
By_Zeus, please, take out the "By_" from your name!! Just "Zeus" is much better!

Another Turkish player with a bad connection.

atmaca53.

It moves very fast
The sound of your shots is very strange
When he shoots add your picture all the time

I think it is no longer an impostor Turkish.
But it sure has a horrible connection.

Kinho40 wrote:Another Turkish player with a bad connection.

atmaca53.

It moves very fast
The sound of your shots is very strange
When he shoots add your picture all the time

I think it is no longer an impostor Turkish.
But it sure has a horrible connection.

We have a candidate here.
I tested and he has horrible conection.
JackFrost and slapshot could you test atmaca53 please ?
Thanks

slapshot wrote:I hereby nominate By_Sheikh for the BadCon List. (He is actually By_Fatih reincarnated).

I think an immediate vote is in order. I recommend the same credentials that were used in the previous vote.

All voters please discuss here.

I did not realize that Remus would automatically suspend a players account after he is banned and starts a new account.

I apologize, this has already been taken care of.

skul wrote:

Remus wrote:

skul wrote:And all new accounts starting with "By_" should not be allowed !!

As soon as possible!!

You should think twice.
That's a bad idea and it won't change anything anyway.

Your are very right! I forgot "By_Zeus" ! He is a good guy!
By_Zeus, please, take out the "By_" from your name!! Just "Zeus" is much better!

that's not easy to change the name :) and what's the mistake of "by"? do you think that they can't come without "by_" keyword? you are wrong!. This is not the solution. Have recent example of fatih as Dragon31 without any "by_" .

slapshot wrote:

supreme wrote:

JackFrost wrote:BadCon Rules
1)anyone who is on BadCon List must stay on it for 30 days before they can appeal it.
2) BadCon list players are not aloud to vote as long as they remain on the list!
3) it takes ten votes 10 votes to place anyone on list or to remove them.
4) after 30 days a Badcon player must ask Skul or me if they can be removed!
you cannot ask a moderator? because Remus has placed me and Skul in Charge.
5) during a appeal BadCon player must prove that they have fixed there connection issues! and promise to change attitude if this is in question?
6) when a person is removed from list they will be on parole - for 30 days.
if parole is broken they will be place back on list without a vote ever being taken.
7) always remember - very bad connection and attitude can put you right back on BadCon list! for 60 days before another appeal!
Remuse are you OK with this or do you wish to make any Changes?

skul please copy this.

If anyone has a suggestion please let us know.

1) 2 weeks trial period is enough to start with.
4) please clear this point under the last red highlighted point.

If players cannot ask moderators because you are incharge of this section then you cannot ask Remus directly. You need to ask slapshot first as he is your leader. Now you would definitely say that i am going to leave my position. Please someone else come and take control.

p.s its not Remuse, it is Remus

I think JackFrost is trying to say that the Moderators should not supersede a vote. That if 10 people have taken the time to vote a player on or off the list, it should not be arbitrarily changed by a moderator. Rather, it should be put up to another vote.

if vote results are supersede" without having a good reason to do so! " then voters will quit voting"- but moderators and veterans, all honest players do have the right to vote!

skul wrote:

slapshot wrote:I hereby nominate By_Sheikh for the BadCon List. (He is actually By_Fatih reincarnated).

I think an immediate vote is in order. I recommend the same credentials that were used in the previous vote.

All voters please discuss here.

• I think all accounts starting with "By_" should be deleted !!
  
  And all new accounts starting with "By_" should not be allowed !!
  
  As soon as possible!!

I don't think that would work Skul my friend! - they will just move to something else?

skul wrote:

Kinho40 wrote:Another Turkish player with a bad connection.

atmaca53.

It moves very fast
The sound of your shots is very strange
When he shoots add your picture all the time

I think it is no longer an impostor Turkish.
But it sure has a horrible connection.

We have a candidate here.
I tested and he has horrible conection.
JackFrost and slapshot could you test atmaca53 please ?
Thanks

I think it would be good to make list of names on watcher list so we all can keep a eye on them and make reports as we go and take names from the forum topic-Players with bad attitude! - Cheaters (aka morons) and personal pms made to watchers: and place them on the watchers list so we can keep a eye on them! then if recommended by watchers or moderators, then that the said person or persons should be place on BadCon list for a vote. I think! this is up to you? slapshot your in charge of the Watchers.
example
The Watchers List
1) atmaca53 Turkish player with a bad connection: 05 Nov 2011

you guys please disregard anything that may seem like me and supreme are enemies, we are just two very outspoken persons, we tend to speak our minds! but make no misunderstanding i have a high respect for her and position as a moderator. she is a good and decent Lady!

Can anyone truly say being on the BadCon list has truly hurt them so bad they cannot play? i myself have been watching some of them, and they seem more normal. with life 100 and 0 armor? - "but i do think (immortals) should not be able to buy armor! just my opinion.

supreme wrote:

skul wrote:

Remus wrote:

• [quote="skul"And all new accounts starting with "By_" should not be allowed !!
  As soon as possible!!/quote]

You should think twice.
That's a bad idea and it won't change anything anyway.

Your are very right! I forgot "By_Zeus" ! He is a good guy!
By_Zeus, please, take out the "By_" from your name!! Just "Zeus" is much better!

that's not easy to change the name :) and what's the mistake of "by"? do you think that they can't come without "by_" keyword? you are wrong!. This is not the solution. Have recent example of fatih as Dragon31 without any "by_" .

• Yes, yes, I know... it was just an overreaction!!
  Sorry you all!
  

ps.I was thinking of a contagious disease that we have to burn the clothes when I wrote that...

Report i have been watching vivek today! and i found him faster and more harder to kill...i was like somehow he was the same as before he was on BadCon list....at first when i saw him in abandon city earlier...he kept asking me to remove him from list over and over...i told him you better fix your connection first! of course i meant after 30 days . but he would leave and come back better and better? ...almost immortal again for what time i was there.
how do you go from being almost normal to almost immortal in just about 2hrs
see I'M watching you guys .

JackFrost wrote:Report i have been watching vivek today! and i found him faster and more harder to kill...i was like somehow he was the same as before he was on BadCon list....at first when i saw him in abandon city earlier...he kept asking me to remove him from list over and over...i told him you better fix your connection first! of course i meant after 30 days . but he would leave and come back better and better? ...almost immortal again for what time i was there.
how do you go from being almost normal to almost immortal in just about 2hrs
see I'M watching you guys .

(last report before getting off of here , vivek went bad to almost normal go figure?)

I was playing now on ABC and once again began to pay attention to atmaca53 player.
I do not know if it is already in the list of Badcon, but even if it is very strange to see him play. His movements are very fast, your shots are very fast, needs a lot of power shots to kill him.

An example: he killed me three times, every time I came near to him and shot him. He turned around toward me and killed me the greatest of ease.
I think simply impossible in my next three rounds with it I have not hit a shot.
To make matters worse he wears the uniform of the skeleton that have shorter life.

I ask them to look at this player as soon as possible. Since we're willing to do a clean in this game, actions are taken as soon as faster these bad players left the game.

Thank you ...

Kinho40 wrote:I was playing now on ABC and once again began to pay attention to atmaca53 player.
I do not know if it is already in the list of Badcon, but even if it is very strange to see him play. His movements are very fast, your shots are very fast, needs a lot of power shots to kill him.

An example: he killed me three times, every time I came near to him and shot him. He turned around toward me and killed me the greatest of ease.
I think simply impossible in my next three rounds with it I have not hit a shot.
To make matters worse he wears the uniform of the skeleton that have shorter life.

I ask them to look at this player as soon as possible. Since we're willing to do a clean in this game, actions are taken as soon as faster these bad players left the game.

Thank you ...

He is on The Watchers List.

Yes I played him (atmaca53) more than few times. He is hard to kill (sometimes even 2 headshots with AW 50 won't do any damage) and besides that he is a rat! This is his tactics. He stays on the respawn position and uses his (i supose) bad connection or whatever and killes you with ease. With vivek is the opposite story but with same effect!
He cruises around camp and act super fast super accurate! But last two times I played him it seems normal. For the first time I was able to kill him and during the process not to waste all ammo! So maybe his connection is improving or this was only momment of luck for me. I think both of this players are good players. They don't have bad attitude!

P.S. I have one report to do that is not for the bad connection list. It is about player with name katastrofa. He was insulted me on a national basis! I am not yet prepared to reveal what was going on but I am keeping him on my bad list. Please all the rest keep an eye on him and closely look for his attitude.

profesorhr wrote:Yes I played him (atmaca53) more than few times. He is hard to kill (sometimes even 2 headshots with AW 50 won't do any damage) and besides that he is a rat! This is his tactics. He stays on the respawn position and uses his (i supose) bad connection or whatever and killes you with ease. With vivek is the opposite story but with same effect!
He cruises around camp and act super fast super accurate! But last two times I played him it seems normal. For the first time I was able to kill him and during the process not to waste all ammo! So maybe his connection is improving or this was only momment of luck for me. I think both of this players are good players. They don't have bad attitude!

P.S. I have one report to do that is not for the bad connection list. It is about player with name katastrofa. He was insulted me on a national basis! I am not yet prepared to reveal what was going on but I am keeping him on my bad list. Please all the rest keep an eye on him and closely look for his attitude.

I don't think he's very active (yet) but he can be added to "The Watchers" list for observation!

I have been watching the immortal .....i and i recommend taking D/S away because they do not need it!

JackFrost wrote:I have been watching the immortal .....i and i recommend taking D/S away because they do not need it!

I agree with you Jack. DS is very powerfull tool when given to immortals!

profesorhr wrote:

JackFrost wrote:I have been watching the immortal .....i and i recommend taking D/S away because they do not need it!

I agree with you Jack. DS is very powerfull tool when given to immortals!

I agree. BadCons should not have DS.

skul wrote:

profesorhr wrote:

JackFrost wrote:I have been watching the immortal .....i and i recommend taking D/S away because they do not need it!

I agree with you Jack. DS is very powerfull tool when given to immortals!

I agree. BadCons should not have DS.

Or maybe raise the number of chickens to 7? It is meant to be a powerful tool. We all like to use it so we have to try to keep it fair. They already have to shoot 5 to our 3 chickens. So 2 more may even it out. Thoughts?

JackFrost wrote:I have been watching the immortal .....i and i recommend taking D/S away because they do not need it!

Why take it away if they don't need it?
If they use it then what is the difference, all they do is give away their position.

This is only powerful in the hands who can't kill very easy. Let them have it, it makes no difference cos you will die with just one shot from whoever uses it, good or bad connection.

Scrappitt wrote:

JackFrost wrote:I have been watching the immortal .....i and i recommend taking D/S away because they do not need it!

Why take it away if they don't need it?
If they use it then what is the difference, all they do is give away their position.

This is only powerful in the hands who can't kill very easy. Let them have it, it makes no difference cos you will die with just one shot from whoever uses it, good or bad connection.

About Vivek,
Played in free CTF ABC with this guy for 10 min earlier.
1- start shooting at him, (he has 27hp) after 8 to 10 shots on target, he still has 27hp. Ok this is bad con
2- it took 3 attempts to throw him out, before it finally works. Ok this is bad con, i think
3- Slapshot has taken a screen shot, basically i'm hiding in a corner, Vivek shots me twice but he is nowhere to be see, It was as if he shot me through the wall twice. Bad con IDK hmm. What happened has never happened to me, in all the time i've been playing the game. Maybe there's a problem with the ABC camp

Lenny wrote: About Vivek,
Played in free CTF ABC with this guy for 10 min earlier.
1- start shooting at him, (he has 27hp) after 8 to 10 shots on target, he still has 27hp. Ok this is bad con
2- it took 3 attempts to throw him out, before it finally works. Ok this is bad con, i think
3- Slapshot has taken a screen shot, basically i'm hiding in a corner, Vivek shots me twice but he is nowhere to be see, It was as if he shot me through the wall twice. Bad con IDK hmm. What happened has never happened to me, in all the time i've been playing the game. Maybe there's a problem with the ABC camp

Yes I saw him with same behavior :)

supreme wrote:

Lenny wrote: About Vivek,
Played in free CTF ABC with this guy for 10 min earlier.
1- start shooting at him, (he has 27hp) after 8 to 10 shots on target, he still has 27hp. Ok this is bad con
2- it took 3 attempts to throw him out, before it finally works. Ok this is bad con, i think
3- Slapshot has taken a screen shot, basically i'm hiding in a corner, Vivek shots me twice but he is nowhere to be see, It was as if he shot me through the wall twice. Bad con IDK hmm. What happened has never happened to me, in all the time i've been playing the game. Maybe there's a problem with the ABC camp

Yes I saw him with same behavior :)

Poor vivek he is tosted now!!!

supreme wrote:

Lenny wrote: About Vivek,
Played in free CTF ABC with this guy for 10 min earlier.
1- start shooting at him, (he has 27hp) after 8 to 10 shots on target, he still has 27hp. Ok this is bad con
2- it took 3 attempts to throw him out, before it finally works. Ok this is bad con, i think
3- Slapshot has taken a screen shot, basically i'm hiding in a corner, Vivek shots me twice but he is nowhere to be see, It was as if he shot me through the wall twice. Bad con IDK hmm. What happened has never happened to me, in all the time i've been playing the game. Maybe there's a problem with the ABC camp

Yes I saw him with same behavior :)

Vivek is currently on The Watcher's list for possible bad connection.

I would have to assume the connection is so bad the out command takes a while to be received on vivek's end...

slapshot wrote:Vivek is currently on The Watcher's list for possible bad connection.

In fact you marked him "BadCon" from beginning:
http://www.infdat.com/hopeless2/HMCinfos.php?op=extra" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Remus wrote:

slapshot wrote:Vivek is currently on The Watcher's list for possible bad connection.

In fact you marked him "BadCon" from beginning:
http://www.infdat.com/hopeless2/HMCinfos.php?op=extra" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Note to self: Check the list twice...

Remus, can you please explain to me why Manga is not on the BadCon list
His connection has been very bad ever since i started playing this game.
When i tell him his connection is very bad, his reaction is hahaha.
When i tell him he should be on BadCon list, his reaction is hahaha. (+ old player's know what he used to be like one word speedhack)
After all this time he doesn't care that his con is bad, this in my opinion is bad attitude.
Welano & By_zeus should also be on this list.
Ahmet has been put on this list, and now good connection player's are willing to play him, bcoz the game play is alot more equal, this is a good thing.
Not putting Manga, Welano and By_zeus on the BadCon list is totaly unfair and biased, and goes against what the BadCon list is all about (equal playing field for all)
How is it fair on Ahmet, when 1 immortal is put on the list but 3 other immortals are not. It's ridiculous

"Hate"
is a new player to the game (1150 frags) with BadCon and too much knowledge about the game , in my opinion an old immortal with a new account.
Keep an eye on him people.

Lenny wrote:Remus, can you please explain to me why Manga is not on the BadCon list

Why do you ask me?

Lenny wrote:"Hate"
is a new player to the game (1150 frags) with BadCon and too much knowledge about the game , in my opinion an old immortal with a new account.
Keep an eye on him people

Hate is a turkish veteran in disguise.
His connection is so bad because he is playing multiplayer games via Vodafone.

Remus wrote:Why do you ask me?

Bcoz if im correct Remus or the Moderators stopped us from voting for him, if it wasn't you it must have been his team mates

If we can vote for him, let my vote be the 1st... Manga for BadCon list

Remus wrote:Hate is a turkish veteran in disguise.
His connection is so bad because he is playing multiplayer games via Vodafone

Somebody should tell him to buy two plastic cups and a piece of string, his connection may improve.

Take care of your own teammates would talk to everyone.
vodafone is large wireless network in Turkey

Why this jealousy you're one of many complexes with lenny

You die hard to enter your own list

In my opinion Kronos12 con is the same as ulubatli con (ok most of the time)
Manga con is always very bad

Look at the jobs on the Taskbar.your link is also very very very bad.I have long been sinking for some reason you

Manga = very bad connection and bad attitude

Is there a shit list

Does anybody know the whereabouts of the enigma machine

Taskbar, sinking

Link very very very bad
Are you suggesting my connection is in the same league as yours


John h knows a thing or two

Most of my connection is always a good time, yet the best.
manga a joke you say to me why?

Are yo talking to Lenny or Manga?

manga wrote:vodafone is large wireless network in Turkey

The mobile phones (with internet connection) and the wireless routers are not suitable for multiplayer games.
They have significant latency.
And in a 1st person shooter the connection latency is critical.


p.s.
There are millions of Vodafone numbers with internet connection in Romania.
But we don't use them to play multiplayer games.

Milan, John_H,Topz and Kinho are very good player with ok connection.(and Supreme )
Manga Welano and By_zeus are good player with very bad connection.
There is a big difference.
I will play against Milan, John_H, Topz, Kinho (and Supreme ) for many hours
I will play against Manga, Welano and By_zeus for 10 minutes, after this i don't want to play any more

do not want to get out to play

John also. Close the mouth of that shit on you involved in every shit