Hopeless 2 Forum

Remus wrote:

manga wrote:vodafone is large wireless network in Turkey

The mobile phones (with internet connection) and the wireless routers are not suitable for multiplayer games.
They have significant latency.
And in a 1st person shooter the connection latency is critical.


p.s.
There are millions of Vodafone numbers with internet connection in Romania.
But we don't use them to play multiplayer games.

ahmet wrote:Hi Remus, I check my connection, my connection is fine, [but bad connection, it is not properly written can not write? Game content also could not write, and elite players who have never written, but my connection is very good, even if the camp is full, I'm writing a very good article, a condition associated with this connection. that is to say, my connection is very good, are properly written text.] (I noticed a lot in the following incident, which claimed to be generally good connections of elite players, you did not defeat me, they say, and almost immediately Your connection sucks They run the forum. please in this matter be fair. 135000 did frag. respect to labor. Remus, I'm not saying this to you. MODERATÖR talking to. have a heart a little.) finally remove me from the list of bad con. Thank you.

Remus wrote:

ahmet wrote:Hi Remus, I check my connection, my connection is fine, [but bad connection, it is not properly written can not write? Game content also could not write, and elite players who have never written, but my connection is very good, even if the camp is full, I'm writing a very good article, a condition associated with this connection. that is to say, my connection is very good, are properly written text.] (I noticed a lot in the following incident, which claimed to be generally good connections of elite players, you did not defeat me, they say, and almost immediately Your connection sucks They run the forum. please in this matter be fair. 135000 did frag. respect to labor. Remus, I'm not saying this to you. MODERATÖR talking to. have a heart a little.) finally remove me from the list of bad con. Thank you.

10 votes are needed to mark a player with BadCon.
5 votes (from those 10) are needed to remove that player from the BadCon list.

slapshot wrote:

Remus wrote:

ahmet wrote:Hi Remus, I check my connection, my connection is fine, [but bad connection, it is not properly written can not write? Game content also could not write, and elite players who have never written, but my connection is very good, even if the camp is full, I'm writing a very good article, a condition associated with this connection. that is to say, my connection is very good, are properly written text.] (I noticed a lot in the following incident, which claimed to be generally good connections of elite players, you did not defeat me, they say, and almost immediately Your connection sucks They run the forum. please in this matter be fair. 135000 did frag. respect to labor. Remus, I'm not saying this to you. MODERATÖR talking to. have a heart a little.) finally remove me from the list of bad con. Thank you.

10 votes are needed to mark a player with BadCon.
5 votes (from those 10) are needed to remove that player from the BadCon list.

I would like to see Ahmet get a fair chance. Can anyone else witness his good connection? I would be happy to vote again, but I would like to see his connection or hear from others who have first.

JackFrost wrote:

slapshot wrote:

Remus wrote: 10 votes are needed to mark a player with BadCon.
5 votes (from those 10) are needed to remove that player from the BadCon list.

I would like to see Ahmet get a fair chance. Can anyone else witness his good connection? I would be happy to vote again, but I would like to see his connection or hear from others who have first.

remember the rules 2) 1)anyone who is on BadCon List must stay on it for 30 days before they can appeal it. -why are the rules being changed!

Remus wrote:

JackFrost wrote:BadCon Rules
1)anyone who is on BadCon List must stay on it for 30 days before they can appeal it.
2) BadCon list players are not aloud to vote as long as they remain on the list!
3) it takes ten votes 10 votes to place anyone on list or to remove them.
4) after 30 days a Badcon player must ask Skul or me if they can be removed!
you cannot ask a moderator? because Remus has placed me and Skul in Charge.
5) during a appeal BadCon player must prove that they have fixed there connection issues! and promise to change attitude if this is in question?
6) when a person is removed from list they will be on parole - for 30 days.
if parole is broken they will be place back on list without a vote ever being taken.
7) always remember - very bad connection and attitude can put you right back on BadCon list! for 60 days before another appeal!
Remuse are you OK with this or do you wish to make any Changes?

OK

JackFrost wrote:

Remus wrote:

JackFrost wrote:BadCon Rules
1)anyone who is on BadCon List must stay on it for 30 days before they can appeal it.
2) BadCon list players are not aloud to vote as long as they remain on the list!
3) it takes ten votes 10 votes to place anyone on list or to remove them.
4) after 30 days a Badcon player must ask Skul or me if they can be removed!
you cannot ask a moderator? because Remus has placed me and Skul in Charge.
5) during a appeal BadCon player must prove that they have fixed there connection issues! and promise to change attitude if this is in question?
6) when a person is removed from list they will be on parole - for 30 days.
if parole is broken they will be place back on list without a vote ever being taken.
7) always remember - very bad connection and attitude can put you right back on BadCon list! for 60 days before another appeal!
Remuse are you OK with this or do you wish to make any Changes?

OK

Remus OK the rules 05 Nov 2011, 05:36 ...so what is going on?

Scrappitt wrote:JackF,
Chill out!
Remus is the boss

supreme wrote:I disagree with rule1 mentioned by you for the reason as stated in above post of mine.

Scrappitt wrote:JackF,
Chill out!
Remus is the boss

Scrappitt wrote:Jack,
Once again cool down, loosen your collar.
Rules are always flexible and lets just remember that this is a game here and they aren't laws.
People come here to relax a little and have fun, not to be told that they are direct violation of rule 16F section 5D of the H2 Gaming Rules Handbook.

Scrappitt wrote:People come here to relax a little and have fun

Lenny wrote:I agree Fuat, this is becoming ridiculous controversy,

But

Scrappitt wrote:People come here to relax a little and have fun

If things stay the same, then good con, ok con and bad con, will have no place in this game

Only very very very bad con will exist.

vivek wrote:what is this remus jackfrost not able to kill me he said immortal this is wrong decision appoint this player for watcher my ping 175 ms but he said im immortal u ask other player .other player kill me easily this is not fair remus plz help i m alone in this game.my connection crerates only problem for jack not a other player if i m wrong ask other player he is watcher i never out from this list

JackFrost wrote:BadCon Rules
1)anyone who is on BadCon List must stay on it 2-4 weeks depending on their improvements and attitude. before they can appeal it.
2) BadCon list players are not aloud to vote as long as they remain on the list!
3) it takes ten votes 10 votes to place anyone on list or to remove them.
4) after 30 days a Badcon player must ask Skul or me if they can be removed!
you cannot ask a moderator? because Remus has placed me and Skul in Charge.
5) during a appeal BadCon player must prove that they have fixed there connection issues! and promise to change attitude if this is in question?
6) when a person is removed from list they will be on parole - for 30 days.
if parole is broken they will be place back on list without a vote ever being taken.
7) always remember - very bad connection and attitude can put you right back on BadCon list! for 60 days before another appeal!
Remuse are you OK with this or do you wish to make any Changes?

Lenny wrote:Remus, can you please explain to me why Manga is not on the BadCon list
His connection has been very bad ever since i started playing this game.
When i tell him his connection is very bad, his reaction is hahaha.
When i tell him he should be on BadCon list, his reaction is hahaha. (+ old player's know what he used to be like one word speedhack)
After all this time he doesn't care that his con is bad, this in my opinion is bad attitude.
Welano & By_zeus should also be on this list.
Ahmet has been put on this list, and now good connection player's are willing to play him, bcoz the game play is alot more equal, this is a good thing.
Not putting Manga, Welano and By_zeus on the BadCon list is totaly unfair and biased, and goes against what the BadCon list is all about (equal playing field for all)
How is it fair on Ahmet, when 1 immortal is put on the list but 3 other immortals are not. It's ridiculous

"Hate"
is a new player to the game (1150 frags) with BadCon and too much knowledge about the game , in my opinion an old immortal with a new account.
Keep an eye on him people.

Timberwolf wrote:I think this game needs to move to Unity.

With the motion Unity gives you, even a 500ms still "looks" normal. They might lag out, but it's not choppy; it's still smooth. The choppiness of a bad connection here is a huge issue in such a game. You're basically stuck in concrete with the limited movements here, so obviously a bad connection player's movements are going to result in a huge advantage.

On Unity, I think these problems are solved. I have played another FPS a few times, and, yes, that game is also mostly Turkish (Turks love their games haha). But they're noobs on that game.

JackFrost wrote:Option for BacCon list of Immortals ! Hopeless 2 has two servers:
I myself have found no one using server necromanthus.com
Should Immortals and or BadCon list players, be put on just this server!
or how can the server be used in a way it can benefit Turkish players ?

Because from my understanding the server is not being used!

JackFrost wrote:

Lenny wrote:Remus, can you please explain to me why Manga is not on the BadCon list
His connection has been very bad ever since i started playing this game.
When i tell him his connection is very bad, his reaction is hahaha.
When i tell him he should be on BadCon list, his reaction is hahaha. (+ old player's know what he used to be like one word speedhack)
After all this time he doesn't care that his con is bad, this in my opinion is bad attitude.
Welano & By_zeus should also be on this list.
Ahmet has been put on this list, and now good connection player's are willing to play him, bcoz the game play is alot more equal, this is a good thing.
Not putting Manga, Welano and By_zeus on the BadCon list is totaly unfair and biased, and goes against what the BadCon list is all about (equal playing field for all)
How is it fair on Ahmet, when 1 immortal is put on the list but 3 other immortals are not. It's ridiculous

"Hate"
is a new player to the game (1150 frags) with BadCon and too much knowledge about the game , in my opinion an old immortal with a new account.
Keep an eye on him people.

Lenny ask slapshot to place Manga on watch list or BadCon Ballot to be voted on! remember only very bad connection+ bad attitude or immortal or close to immortal can be put on badcon list

manga wrote:psychology, both of you have a mental problem (lenny and jackfrost)Leave me alone

rajput wrote:i think jackfrost does not kill any player whose name is in bad connection list i played with vivek more time but his connection is good why jack says he is immortal i kill vivek in 2or 3 shots i think jack have any problem with vivek vivek is good attitude jackfrost behave like owner of this game if i remember rules r not only for one player but for all player.

rajput wrote:i think jackfrost does not kill any player whose name is in bad connection list i played with vivek more time but his connection is good why jack says he is immortal i kill vivek in 2or 3 shots i think jack have any problem with vivek vivek is good attitude jackfrost behave like owner of this game if i remember rules r not only for one player but for all player.

Timberwolf wrote:I think this game needs to move to Unity.

With the motion Unity gives you, even a 500ms still "looks" normal. They might lag out, but it's not choppy; it's still smooth. The choppiness of a bad connection here is a huge issue in such a game. You're basically stuck in concrete with the limited movements here, so obviously a bad connection player's movements are going to result in a huge advantage.

On Unity, I think these problems are solved. I have played another FPS a few times, and, yes, that game is also mostly Turkish (Turks love their games haha). But they're noobs on that game.

Lenny wrote:give me a more simple game with equal game play.

Lenny wrote:I agree with Josh, give me a more simple game with equal game play.
Makes total sense to me, then i can kick Richard head's (Manga's) arse.

Remus wrote:

Lenny wrote:give me a more simple game with equal game play.

That game does not exist.
Why do you think they all ask for more features?

99% of the internet games are almost dead in 6-12 months after their release.
This game is still growing after 2.5 years!
That tells everything.

On the other hand, Unity3D is not prepared for complex projects.
Except the image quality, all the games made with Unity3D are very simple and boring.
Hopeless 2 ported on Unity3D will turn into something unplayable.
The only option is to cut off all its goodies.
And that's something out of question.

This simple benchmark shows one of the biggest problems in Unity3D:
http://www.infdat.com/unity3d/SMC.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Get inside the castle, ignore the FPS value, look up & down and see if the motion is smooth or not.
Maybe next year we'll talk again about a ported version.
Presuming Adobe won't upgrade SW3D ...