The Watchers

Post by **JackFrost** » 28 Sep 2011, 02:30

Apply hear Hopeless 2 is seeking 7 good players that are honest and trust worthy! for the position of Hopeless 2 Investigators ...your job will be simply to check out reports of Complaints concerning members -and to Report your findings " under this topic . so Remus can read the information Collected. and determine if a person needs to be punished.
only 7 members can be Elected for this position! Remus has given me the responsibility to Elect those 7 people who will be Investigators!
you will be called The Watchers this office of Investigators will be of great help to Remus in a effort to keep the game from being abused by players.

Contact me: JackFrost

Post by **DeadlySpawn** » 28 Sep 2011, 02:49

I can be one, maybe.

Post by **JackFrost** » 28 Sep 2011, 12:10

DeadlySpawn wrote:I can be one, maybe.

you will be on list to be voted on..thank you. I will let you know the decision it may be awhile !

Post by **slapshot** » 28 Sep 2011, 13:18

I'll volunteer for this as well.

Post by **By_Enes** » 28 Sep 2011, 13:41

i can :)

Post by **JackFrost** » 28 Sep 2011, 15:28

slapshot wrote:I'll volunteer for this as well.

you will be on list to be voted on.
I will let you know the decision it may be awhile !

Post by **JackFrost** » 28 Sep 2011, 15:37

please understand...anybody can apply - but that don't mean you will get the position?..first names will be collected, and the Investigators will be elected based upon merit & honesty .

Post by **JackFrost** » 28 Sep 2011, 15:39

By_Enes wrote:i can :)

you will be added to list..remember no guarantees !

Post by **Lenny** » 28 Sep 2011, 17:21

By_Enes wrote:i can :)

Enes, you will be on the watched list, not the watchers list, but hey you have wanted to be on a list for months.
So congratulations

Post by **JohnnyB** » 28 Sep 2011, 23:47

I 2nd the nomination Lenny!

Congrats Enes! We will be watching you!

Lenny wrote:
By_Enes wrote:i can :)
Enes, you will be on the watched list, not the watchers list, but hey you have wanted to be on a list for months.
So congratulations lol:

Post by **Praveen** » 29 Sep 2011, 14:55

i'm with you JackFrost
if u want any help ask me i will help you.

Post by **slapshot** » 29 Sep 2011, 15:54

Praveen wrote:i'm with you JackFrost
if u want any help ask me i will help you.

Post by **JackFrost** » 30 Sep 2011, 00:35

Praveen wrote:i'm with you JackFrost
if u want any help ask me i will help you.

you will be added to list..thanks Praveen

Post by **DeadlySpawn** » 30 Sep 2011, 00:46

slapshot wrote:I'll volunteer for this as well.

For Slapshot

Post by **By_zeus** » 30 Sep 2011, 18:29

JackFrost wrote:please understand...anybody can apply - but that don't mean you will get the position?..first names will be collected, and the Investigators will be elected based upon merit & honesty .

what am i?
not honest

Post by **Lenny** » 30 Sep 2011, 20:11

If you are honest you do not need to ask the question.
I'm honest end of story.

Post by **JackFrost** » 02 Oct 2011, 17:12

Apply hear Hopeless 2 is seeking 7 good players that are honest and trust worthy! for the position of Hopeless 2- Investigators..OK guys please apply, i need a list before election can be made! .Remember anybody can apply - but that don't mean you will get the position?

Those who have applied; update
DeadlySpawn

slapshot

By_Enes

Praveen

By_zeus

Post by **JackFrost** » 06 Oct 2011, 05:39

It seems not to many want to be a investigator. OK guys i still waiting ! so if anyone wants to be one just say so.

Post by **Praveen** » 06 Oct 2011, 10:05

JackFrost wrote:Apply hear Hopeless 2 is seeking 7 good players that are honest and trust worthy! for the position of Hopeless 2- Investigators..OK guys please apply, i need a list before election can be made! .Remember anybody can apply - but that don't mean you will get the position?

sry for being late,
in my opinion The worst connections are

1)By_Enes
2)By_Fatih
3)nokta
4)ReiS_AhmEt_
5)juan507 (but i like him he is good person with good attitude)
it's up to you guys Remus,Timberwolf,JackFrost

Post by **JackFrost** » 06 Oct 2011, 10:23

Praveen wrote:
JackFrost wrote:Apply hear Hopeless 2 is seeking 7 good players that are honest and trust worthy! for the position of Hopeless 2- Investigators..OK guys please apply, i need a list before election can be made! .Remember anybody can apply - but that don't mean you will get the position?
sry for being late,
in my opinion The worst connections are

1)By_Enes
2)By_Fatih
3)nokta
4)ReiS_AhmEt_
5)juan507 (but i like him he is good person with good attitude)
it's up to you guys Remus,Timberwolf,JackFrost

I agree with you Praveen
all of these guys are on the trash List..some have very bad attitude!
real bad connection. even tho juan is a nice guy but his connection is one of the worst!,,he becomes a immortal?

Post by **JackFrost** » 06 Oct 2011, 11:00

we need information on these three ahmet, very bad connection?
cevherin ,bad connection and attitude, deagledanny , real bad connection

So you guys who want to be a investigator. please report your findings on the trash list! all this information will be helpful...so Remuse can decide how he wants this list to be?

Post by **JackFrost** » 08 Oct 2011, 19:02

JackFrost wrote:Apply hear Hopeless 2 is seeking 7 good players that are honest and trust worthy! for the position of Hopeless 2- Investigators..OK guys please apply, i need a list before election can be made! .Remember anybody can apply - but that don't mean you will get the position?

Those who have applied; update
DeadlySpawn

slapshot

By_Enes

Praveen

By_zeus

profesorhr

Post by **skul** » 08 Oct 2011, 21:22

Count on me. If my name is chosen I'll help to make some players know what "fair play" and good attitude means.

Post by **JackFrost** » 09 Oct 2011, 01:32

Apply hear for the position of Investigators, you will be known as,
"The Watchers" you will be the eyes and ears for Hopeless 2 ...you will respond to Remus and the Moderators request, and have such duties as to investigate -certain players ETC. and to make a report on your findings!
this will include: The Trash List -recommendations, to Add or remove a player who is on this list? / Cheaters (aka morons) (Players with bad attitude): to follow up on complaints and if needed to to make a examination; - to conduct an official inquiry .
so here are the ones who have apply. we still are accepting more applications!

DeadlySpawn

slapshot

By_Enes

Praveen

By_zeus

profesorhr

skul

Post by **DeadlySpawn** » 13 Oct 2011, 00:57

I cancel my request

Post by **JackFrost** » 13 Oct 2011, 05:40

DeadlySpawn wrote:I cancel my request

are you saying you don't want to be a watcher "Investigators"
may i ask why you changed your mind!

Post by **slapshot** » 14 Oct 2011, 13:11

JackFrost wrote:we need information on these three ahmet, very bad connection?
cevherin ,bad connection and attitude, deagledanny , real bad connection

So you guys who want to be a investigator. please report your findings on the trash list! all this information will be helpful...so Remuse can decide how he wants this list to be?

I played in camp with ahmet this morning. He seems to have very good attitude and good connection. I think he's hard to beat because he's a smart player!

Post by **Scrappitt** » 14 Oct 2011, 13:26

slapshot wrote:I played in camp with ahmet this morning. He seems to have very good attitude and good connection. I think he's hard to beat because he's a smart player

I have always found his attitude to be good but his connection is usually bad. He just has a language barrier.

Post by **DeadlySpawn** » 15 Oct 2011, 00:28

JackFrost wrote:
DeadlySpawn wrote:I cancel my request

are you saying you don't want to be a watcher "Investigators"
may i ask why you changed your mind!

I cannot play anymore. The account/email problem

Post by **JackFrost** » 17 Oct 2011, 05:16

Scrappitt wrote:
slapshot wrote:I played in camp with ahmet this morning. He seems to have very good attitude and good connection. I think he's hard to beat because he's a smart player
I have always found his attitude to be good but his connection is usually bad. He just has a language barrier.

ahmet is a nice guy ...but his connection is very bad.

Post by **JackFrost** » 17 Oct 2011, 08:40

ThunderClouD and juan507 are super Immortals..i would like to know how they became like this? i remember at one time they were just a little above normal now look at them! something needs to be done with these guys. maybe take away D/S they sure done need it . also take away med kit and Armor. that should bring them down a little!

Post by **By_Enes** » 17 Oct 2011, 08:51

JackFrost wrote:ThunderClouD and juan507 are super Immortals..i would like to know how they became like this? i remember at one time they were just a little above normal now look at them! something needs to be done with these guys. maybe take away D/S they sure done need it . also take away med kit and Armor. that should bring them down a little!

They use armor(ThunderClouD&juan507)

They haven't got a SERVER!
They have f**king connection because they open Facebook,Messenger and all the tabs so they have bad connection.

Post by **JackFrost** » 17 Oct 2011, 08:57

By_Enes wrote:
JackFrost wrote:ThunderClouD and juan507 are super Immortals..i would like to know how they became like this? i remember at one time they were just a little above normal now look at them! something needs to be done with these guys. maybe take away D/S they sure done need it . also take away med kit and Armor. that should bring them down a little!
They use armor(ThunderClouD&juan507)

They haven't got a SERVER!
They have f**king connection because they open Facebook,Messenger and all the tabs so they have bad connection.

I wonder if it is possible to take away D/S med-kit and Armor! :

Post by **Remus** » 17 Oct 2011, 10:20

JackFrost wrote:I wonder if it is possible to take away D/S med-kit and Armor! :

I didn't decide the penalty for the players with bad attitude & bad connection,
but probably no armor and no life boost (zero armor and no more than 100 life).

Post by **By_Enes** » 17 Oct 2011, 14:38

did not affect my connection is actually a good server,
America region where they live in my uncle's
we use the same phone company as a
I use my computer to the computer company
I enter in peace
If you allow it to be
I am willing to pay for the server is already installed

By_zeus elite could
Can I become me?

Post by **skul** » 17 Oct 2011, 17:11

Remus wrote:
JackFrost wrote:I wonder if it is possible to take away D/S med-kit and Armor! :
I didn't decide the penalty for the players with bad attitude & bad connection,
but probably no armor and no life boost (zero armor and no more than 100 life).

I will like to see this penalties working!! I will like very very very very much!!!!
I think this is a very important improvement !

I think these penalties could be applied right now and if they are not enough, the penalties could be increased after. I mean, we need as soon as possible and with some tests we will be able to know if it is good or needs some more. Same as boosted but on the opposite way. Thanks for the attention!

Post by **skul** » 17 Oct 2011, 17:21

JackFrost wrote: ahmet is a nice guy ...but his connection is very bad.

About ahmet I agree with JackFrost.
As I told in some post somewhere his connection is more than just bad. it's very bad. And very bad connections added to a very good players they become something more than immortal, one level above immortal.

Post by **By_Enes** » 17 Oct 2011, 17:32

JackFrost wrote:ahmet is a nice guy ...but his connection is very bad.

i agree with slapshot,Scrappitt

ahmet have good attiuade&connection.
But İf you cannot kill him don't reply ''ahmet have bad connection''

Post by **skul** » 17 Oct 2011, 17:57

By_Enes wrote:
JackFrost wrote:ahmet is a nice guy ...but his connection is very bad.
i agree with slapshot,Scrappitt
ahmet have good attiuade&connection.
But İf you cannot kill him don't reply ''ahmet have bad connection''

By_Enes, you are a little boy so just try to learn to respect others opinions.

Post by **Lenny** » 17 Oct 2011, 19:52

By_Enes wrote:
JackFrost wrote:ahmet is a nice guy ...but his connection is very bad.
i agree with slapshot,Scrappitt

ahmet have good attiuade&connection.
But İf you cannot kill him don't reply ''ahmet have bad connection''

By_Enes wrote:did not affect my connection is actually a good server,
America region where they live in my uncle's
we use the same phone company as a
I use my computer to the computer company
I enter in peace
If you allow it to be
I am willing to pay for the server is already installed

By_zeus elite could
Can I become me?

CLOUD CUCKOO LAND

Post by **Remus** » 17 Oct 2011, 21:12

skul wrote:
JackFrost wrote: ahmet is a nice guy ...but his connection is very bad.
About ahmet I agree with JackFrost.
As I told in some post somewhere his connection is more than just bad. it's very bad. And very bad connections added to a very good players they become something more than immortal, one level above immortal.

I agree with you guys.
But the trash list is not for faithful players with good attitude.

The purpose of The Trash List topic is not to punish players.
It's to show the players with very bad connection.
If they also have bad attitude, they will be marked "Trash":
http://www.infdat.com/hopeless2/HMCinfos.php?op=extra" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I didn't decide the penalty yet.

Post by **JackFrost** » 17 Oct 2011, 22:19

Remus wrote:
JackFrost wrote:I wonder if it is possible to take away D/S med-kit and Armor! :
I didn't decide the penalty for the players with bad attitude & bad connection,
but probably no armor and no life boost (zero armor and no more than 100 life).

The Trash List is making a lot of sense now!

Post by **skul** » 19 Oct 2011, 15:09

Remus wrote:
skul wrote:
JackFrost wrote: ahmet is a nice guy ...but his connection is very bad.
About ahmet I agree with JackFrost.
As I told in some post somewhere his connection is more than just bad. it's very bad. And very bad connections added to a very good players they become something more than immortal, one level above immortal.
I agree with you guys.
But the trash list is not for faithful players with good attitude.

The purpose of The Trash List topic is not to punish players.
It's to show the players with very bad connection.
If they also have bad attitude, they will be marked "Trash":
http://www.infdat.com/hopeless2/HMCinfos.php?op=extra" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I didn't decide the penalty yet.

Thank you Remus!
Yes, I agree that "very bad connection with good attitude" players must not go to the Trash List.
I will try to make levels here:

> excelent
> very good
> good
> acceptable
> bad
> very bad..... (with good attitude, ... DON'T go to the list)
> worst... (with good attitude, ... goes to the list)

I think we need some connections levels to vote who goes and who don't go.
ahmet has "one of the worst connection". Good attitude with "worst connection". That's why I voted him to go to the list.
Just my humble opinion.

Post by **slapshot** » 20 Oct 2011, 16:28

Yes, I agree that "very bad connection with good attitude" players must not go to the Trash List.
I will try to make levels here:

> excelent
> very good
> good
> acceptable
> bad
> very bad..... (with good attitude, ... DON'T go to the list)
> worst... (with good attitude, ... goes to the list)

I think we need some connections levels to vote who goes and who don't go.
ahmet has "one of the worst connection". Good attitude with "worst connection". That's why I voted him to go to the list.
Just my humble opinion.

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I think this may definitely help!

Post by **JohnnyB** » 20 Oct 2011, 20:08

What I find interesting is the top 2 players of the month each have 14,901 and 9,409 frags. And they also happen to be on the trash list. Wow! 14,901 frags in a month means the number 1 player averages 496 frags each and every day for a month! I guess this would be easy to accomplish if you are immortal and hard to kill.

slapshot wrote:Yes, I agree that "very bad connection with good attitude" players must not go to the Trash List.
I will try to make levels here:
> excelent
> very good
> good
> acceptable
> bad
> very bad..... (with good attitude, ... DON'T go to the list)
> worst... (with good attitude, ... goes to the list)
I think we need some connections levels to vote who goes and who don't go.
ahmet has "one of the worst connection". Good attitude with "worst connection". That's why I voted him to go to the list.
Just my humble opinion.

I think this may definitely help!

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Post by **slapshot** » 20 Oct 2011, 20:10

JohnnyB wrote:What I find interesting is the top 2 players of the month each have 14,901 and 9,409 frags. And they also happen to be on the trash list. Wow! 14,901 frags in a month means the number 1 player averages 496 frags each and every day for a month! I guess this would be easy to accomplish if you are immortal and hard to kill.

slapshot wrote:Yes, I agree that "very bad connection with good attitude" players must not go to the Trash List.
I will try to make levels here:
> excelent
> very good
> good
> acceptable
> bad
> very bad..... (with good attitude, ... DON'T go to the list)
> worst... (with good attitude, ... goes to the list)
I think we need some connections levels to vote who goes and who don't go.
ahmet has "one of the worst connection". Good attitude with "worst connection". That's why I voted him to go to the list.
Just my humble opinion.

And THAT my friends is why we need to work out this list and the Elite list modifications!

Post by **JackFrost** » 21 Oct 2011, 23:58

remember Remus said the trash list is not for faithful players with good attitude. so were talking about bad connection with good or bad attitude" so then players
who have bad connection + bad attitude, will be put on Trash List
"what is bad attitude to me it is anyone who cheats ,hacks, curses, Immortals or abuse elite powers for no reason" if a players uses Messenger service or just open a lot of programs to give them advantage over other members is wrong. this is my opinion. but let us try and work out a rating system and then if this is OK with Remus we can vote on each players as we go?

Post by **JackFrost** » 22 Oct 2011, 00:59

The duty of >The Watchers is to investigate and to report on any complaint!
or for whatever the moderators or Remus would have their duties to be!

so now lets look at the rating system?
"players with very bad connection + good attitude" no trash list
"players with very bad connection + bad attitude" yes trash list
" players with worst connection + good or bad attitude" yes trash list
" players who are Immortals = yes trash list
This is what i recommend

Post by **JackFrost** » 24 Oct 2011, 07:08

Remus said - no penalty for players with good attitude.
( bad connection, just kick them out of camp.)

CONNECTIONS LEVELS AND ATTITUDE
rating - Star system *
1 * "players with very bad connection + good attitude" no trash list
2 ** "players with very bad connection + bad attitude" yes trash list
3 *** "players with worst connection + good or bad attitude" yes trash list
4 **** "players who are Immortals = yes trash list

Maybe we can vote on each player as we go through list!
5 member votes to put anyone on trash list, or to take them off- because maybe they have fixed connection issues and or change attitude? of course Remus will have the final word.

thanks skul for your ideals
Let us know what you think about this Remus!

Post by **JackFrost** » 24 Oct 2011, 09:54

now go to trash list and vote