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Remus wrote:v2.45


p.s.
Get in front of the posters (close enough) in any map.
I hope you'll figure out what's coming soon.

I found that's the magical tv showing live matches ( live streaming ) I won.. now my gift.. hehe

Clear the browser cache and reload the game.
The in-game video player has been enabled.
It's still in beta stage, a single short movie, but I'm sure you'll like it.
Get in front of the poster (close enough) and press the Use/Action key (by default "U").
Using the same key you can switch back to Poster.


Usually, a 3D game running at the same time with a MP4/H.264 decoder is a processor killer.
Not this time.
The FPS drop is a minor one.

Remus wrote:Clear the browser cache and reload the game.
The in-game video player has been enabled.
It's still in beta stage, a single short movie, but I'm sure you'll like it.
Get in front of the poster (close enough) and press the Use/Action key (by default "U").
Using the same key you can switch back to Poster.


Usually, a 3D game running at the same time with a MP4/H.264 decoder is a processor killer.
Not this time.
The FPS drop is a minor one.

Sneezing panda. :)

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Another v2.45 update: more balanced gameplay
No more Life, Damage & Range boosts.
Here are the new ranks: http://www.infdat.com/hopeless2/ranks.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

note 1: with Pro Package you still get a boost, but only +10%

note 2: the players marked "BadCon" have the life limited to 100 and no accuracy boost.

I believe 'more balanced' would be to reduce someone's accuracy with the more frags that they get
Let's make it harder for the better players
This would certainly make it more interesting

Scrappitt wrote:I believe 'more balanced' would be to reduce someone's accuracy with the more frags that they get
Let's make it harder for the better players
This would certainly make it more interesting

what! you gotta be kidding "Scrappitt" do you want to create bad game play? It will have a Opposite effect? my accuracy 80% but i don't even get that with most players because of their connection problems? I'M shooting them but it seems with little less damage i have to use more bullets too?
my bullets run out faster too then i have to try and get more!

Scrappitt wrote:I believe 'more balanced' would be to reduce someone's accuracy with the more frags that they get
Let's make it harder for the better players

Negative ranks?
That's a crap.

We have a bunch of daily players, but 95% of them are in the Beginner camps.
Including veterans ...
The current ranks are much more balanced.
A player with 500 frags has the same life, damage & range as tina.
Now I don't see any reason to leave a camp with veterans if you are a noob.

The system at the moment supports 'the better you get, the easier it is'
Where's the challenge?

Scrappitt wrote:The system at the moment supports 'the better you get, the easier it is'
Where's the challenge?

The challenge is always the same: more veterans.
http://www.infdat.com/hopeless2/HMC.php?op=top" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Too many unregistered players with >100 frags in the Beginner camps.
Most of them are veterans.
That must stop.
Too many players leave the camps with veterans.
That must stop.
And the current ranking system will help a lot.

Boss:
i love this version 2.45.
it takes three shotgun shots to kill somebody..
harder than ever..
I saw Lenny cry and complain. why so hard..
Old players are just meatball to the newbies. that's fucking good.

zesuga wrote:it takes three shotgun shots to kill somebody.

Yes, 3 instead of 2.
That's because there is no damage boost anymore.
But a long time ago you needed 4 shotgun shots to kill someone.

zesuga wrote:Old players are just meatball to the newbies. that's fucking good.

That's great.
It means 2 things:
1) you'll see more players in the "normal" camps
2) those old players suck (you can find them in the beginner camps: noob killers!)

zesuga wrote:I saw Lenny cry and complain. why so hard..

LMAO
When was this

Just played for an hour and first impressions, all good.

Lenny wrote:Just played for an hour and first impressions, all good.

Two more corrections (faster bonuses for registered players):
http://www.infdat.com/hopeless2/ranks.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
1) the Ext Radar (the red disco light ) is available for all the registered players
2) they get the Scanner at 100 frags (instead of 500).

hehe, I with Scrappitt. Though I have not played yet. but its not that bad thing as well there must be challenge for veterans. Though i cannot play normal with the boosts as well .

But I feel that all are loving this new update. I will try that :)

supreme wrote:hehe, I agree with Scrappitt.
there must be challenge for veterans.

As I said before, the purpose of this update was another one: more balanced gameplay.

Talking about "pure" veterans, we might replace "Boosted" with "Veterans"
and think about the restrictions/boosts of this multiplayer mode.

Remus wrote:

supreme wrote:hehe, I agree with Scrappitt.
there must be challenge for veterans.

As I said before, the purpose of this update was another one: more balanced gameplay.

Talking about "pure" veterans, we might replace "Boosted" with "Veterans"
and think about the restrictions/boosts of this multiplayer mode.

hehe, i bet none veteran will ever visit that mode unless they are forced . What about the Jail mode that would be funny and in more use.. hehe

Remus wrote:

Lenny wrote:Just played for an hour and first impressions, all good.

Two more corrections (faster bonuses for registered players):
http://www.infdat.com/hopeless2/ranks.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
1) the Ext Radar (the red disco light ) is available for all the registered players
2) they get the Scanner at 100 frags (instead of 500).

very beatiful

Remus wrote:Another v2.45 update: more balanced gameplay
No more Life, Damage & Range boosts.
Here are the new ranks: http://www.infdat.com/hopeless2/ranks.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

note 1: with Pro Package you still get a boost, but only +10%

note 2: the players marked "BadCon" have the life limited to 100 and no accuracy boost.

GJ..

Remus wrote:

Scrappitt wrote:The system at the moment supports 'the better you get, the easier it is'
Where's the challenge?

The challenge is always the same: more veterans.
http://www.infdat.com/hopeless2/HMC.php?op=top" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Too many unregistered players with >100 frags in the Beginner camps.
Most of them are veterans.
That must stop.
Too many players leave the camps with veterans.
That must stop.
And the current ranking system will help a lot.

GJ,

Remus wrote: Two more corrections (faster bonuses for registered players):
http://www.infdat.com/hopeless2/ranks.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
1) the Ext Radar (the red disco light ) is available for all the registered players
2) they get the Scanner at 100 frags (instead of 500).

graphics of the game is developing an increasingly,
this is a good result,
good results, but you would know that the beginnings of a bad,
but not this just the start for Super,We must always continue to do so,
Written in the book of world records[in dream ]
dream come true

Hi Remus,

1)i like that idea No more Life, Damage & Range boosts.
2)What About Shotgun it needs 3 bullets to kill somebody

Then What the difference between Pistol & Shotgun.

Praveen wrote:Then What the difference between Pistol & Shotgun?

Talking about Winchester vs pistol:
1) +25% damage
2) +30% accuracy
3) +30% range
Two shotgun head shots are enough to kill anyone.

Remus wrote:Two shotgun head shots are enough to kill anyone.

Except for a couple players on The Watchers List.

slapshot wrote:

Remus wrote:Two shotgun head shots are enough to kill anyone.

Except for a couple players on The Watchers List.

Double check if their head is missing or not.

Remus wrote: Talking about Winchester vs pistol:
1) +25% damage
2) +30% accuracy
3) +30% range
Two shotgun head shots are enough to kill anyone.

This is happening same with the Pistol Two head shots are enough.
(or)
one head shot and another one to body.
This is the same thing with shotgun that is what i'm asking
What's the difference between shotgun and pistol
or maybe i'm mistaked anything..

Praveen wrote:

Remus wrote: Talking about Winchester vs pistol:
1) +25% damage
2) +30% accuracy
3) +30% range
Two shotgun head shots are enough to kill anyone.

This is happening same with the Pistol Two head shots are enough.

What's the difference between shotgun and pistol

No it's not happening the same.
And I just told you the differences.
The pistol is good only if the target is very close to you.

Remus wrote: No it's not happening the same.
And I just told you the differences.
The pistol is good only if the target is very close to you.

Remus wrote:Another v2.45 update: more balanced gameplay
No more Life, Damage & Range boosts.
Here are the new ranks: http://www.infdat.com/hopeless2/ranks.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

note 1: with Pro Package you still get a boost, but only +10%

note 2: the players marked "BadCon" have the life limited to 100 and no accuracy boost.

I did not like the removal, range (next time, avoid the larger fields)
shotguns and 3 (or 2 in the head), do not work with badcons.
else, the Propack ammo, only works for the x29 (or aw50, Winchester), every time I'm out of bullets, spending with players immortal

Topz007 wrote:I did not like the removal, range (next time, avoid the larger fields)
shotguns and 3 (or 2 in the head), do not work with badcons.
else, the Propack ammo, only works for the x29 (or aw50, Winchester), every time I'm out of bullets, spending with players immortal

Sorry Aldinho, but you are wrong.
You did not like double damage.
You did not like +50% damage.
Now you have the initial damage.
Now all the players have the same life, damage and range.
The gameplay is much more balanced.
The veterans still have 3 important advantages: regeneration, ammo and accuracy.
Compared with a 500 frags player, you have:
+50% regeneration, +70% ammo and +70% accuracy.
It's more than enough.

Because Aldinho is "the young and the restless" and because he is always looking for more ammo:
Clear the browser cache and reload the game.
The Pro Ammo Pack gives you ammo for ALL your weapons.

Remus wrote:

Topz007 wrote:I did not like the removal, range (next time, avoid the larger fields)
shotguns and 3 (or 2 in the head), do not work with badcons.
else, the Propack ammo, only works for the x29 (or aw50, Winchester), every time I'm out of bullets, spending with players immortal

Sorry Aldinho, but you are wrong.
You did not like double damage.
You did not like +50% damage.
Now you have the initial damage.
Now all the players have the same life, damage and range.
The gameplay is much more balanced.
The veterans still have 3 important advantages: regeneration, ammo and accuracy.
Compared with a 500 frags player, you have:
+50% regeneration, +70% ammo and +70% accuracy.
It's more than enough.

Hmm, I think your idea Remus was good. Balanced game is needed. But, I noticed that after the range removal and cutting off the ammo only few players are playing ABC now. Now lots of people are starting to play NCY again. I tried yesterday to play ABC in several occasions but no one was there. Then I tried my luck in NCY and there was three full camps. Even veterans like Topz, tina, JackFrost, slapshot were playing there. Something must be done. Maybe we could get extra points if we play several camps and not only one. Maybe you need to "forces" us to play more camps. Anyway that is something to think about.

profesorhr wrote:Hmm, I think your idea Remus was good. Balanced game is needed. But, I noticed that after the range removal and cutting off the ammo only few players are playing ABC now. Now lots of people are starting to play NCY again. I tried yesterday to play ABC in several occasions but no one was there. Then I tried my luck in NCY and there was three full camps. Even veterans like Topz, tina, JackFrost, slapshot were playing there. Something must be done. Maybe we could get extra points if we play several camps and not only one. Maybe you need to "forces" us to play more camps. Anyway that is something to think about.

1) There was no range removal.
No more range boost. All the players have the same range now, the default one.
2) the amount of ammo has been reduced before the release of NCY and ABC.
3) NCY provides better frame rate than ABC
4) In the past 2 months we had over 1.5 million new players.
In a couple of months you'll find hundreds of them in the "normal" camps.

Remus wrote: The veterans still have 3 important advantages: regeneration, ammo and accuracy.
Compared with a 500 frags player, you have:
+50% regeneration, +70% ammo and +70% accuracy.
It's more than enough.

Sorry Remus but you forgot the most important advantage that veterans have, Experience!
The normal camps if you can find them are more balanced than ever and I for one applaud this update.

I do have the same problem as the Prof though, I rarely seem to find people in ABC which to me is by far the best camp we have. Altough NCY is a nice camp it is overun with crappy connections which spoil it. There are also too many people in there for my liking as this makes tactical play very difficult.
I understand that there are many people whom prefer this crazy shoot'em up for hours and hours as it is good for their frag count but it isn't for me.

Just my opinion

Scrappitt wrote:Sorry Remus but you forgot the most important advantage that veterans have, Experience!
The normal camps if you can find them are more balanced than ever and I for one applaud this update.

I did not forget and I totally agree with you.
But you should tell those veterans about that "experience".
Because, as you can see, a few of them are asking for more range, ammo and damage.
When they already have +70% more ammo than a 500 frags player.

Scrappitt wrote:I do have the same problem as the Prof though, I rarely seem to find people in ABC which to me is by far the best camp we have. Altough NCY is a nice camp it is overun with crappy connections which spoil it.

As I stated after its release, ABC is a problematic map.
All the large city maps (due to their structure) have performance issues in any 3D engine.
On the other hand, NCY is a map highly optimized for best performances.
Obviously, the bad connections look even worse in small maps (due to their chaotic movement).

Anyway, every day I find dozens of unregistered players with over 100 frags in ABC.
That tells everything.

Remus wrote:

Scrappitt wrote:Sorry Remus but you forgot the most important advantage that veterans have, Experience!
The normal camps if you can find them are more balanced than ever and I for one applaud this update.

I did not forget and I totally agree with you.
But you should tell those veterans about that "experience".
Because, as you can see, a few of them are asking for more range, ammo and damage.
When they already have +70% more ammo than a 500 frags player.

Scrappitt wrote:I do have the same problem as the Prof though, I rarely seem to find people in ABC which to me is by far the best camp we have. Altough NCY is a nice camp it is overun with crappy connections which spoil it.

As I stated after its release, ABC is a problematic map.
All the large city maps (due to their structure) have performance issues in any 3D engine.
On the other hand, NCY is a map highly optimized for best performances.
Obviously, the bad connections look even worse in small maps (due to their chaotic movement).

Anyway, every day I find dozens of unregistered players with over 100 frags in ABC.
That tells everything.

I am not talking about unregistered players with 100 + points. I am talking about players that have name and rank here. There is nobody to play with in ABC camp even this morning (UTC +1 time zone)! I am not interested in playing noname players because after being killed 3 times in a row they runaway and there is no play after that. I think you should encourage players to play all the camps or at least 3 camp in seven days. You could do that by rewarding them with some extra points or punish them if they don't play with reduction of points. I don't mean with the points they have but reward and deduction on points they are collecting in camps at that momment (e.g. if I kill Top007 (sorry Topz) I get 20 points in curent conditions and if I play only one camp I get 10 points, two camps 15 points and all the 3 camps 20 points!)

profesorhr wrote:I am not talking about unregistered players with 100 + points. I am talking about players that have name and rank here. There is nobody to play with in ABC camp even this morning (UTC +1 time zone)! I am not interested in playing noname players because after being killed 3 times in a row they runaway and there is no play after that. I think you should encourage players to play all the camps or at least 3 camp in seven days. You could do that by rewarding them with some extra points or punish them if they don't play with reduction of points. I don't mean with the points they have but reward and deduction on points they are collecting in camps at that momment (e.g. if I kill Top007 (sorry Topz) I get 20 points in curent conditions and if I play only one camp I get 10 points, two camps 15 points and all the 3 camps 20 points!)

My dear Einstein,

The purpose of this update was more balanced gameplay.
More than 95% of the daily players are unregistered.
They like ABC (50%), NCY (25%) and SMC (15%).
The registered players like NCY.
Why?
It's obvious: fast frags and good FPS value.

I'm not interested in forcing the players to play a certain map.
The 12th map is on the way btw.
I'm interested in 2 things:
1) to bring more players into the game
2) to bring more players into the "normal" camps in the near future.
And the last 2 months were the BEST months in the 2.5 years history of this game.

Remus wrote:I'm not interested in forcing the players to play a certain map.
The 12th map is on the way btw.
I'm interested in 2 things:
1) to bring more players into the game
2) to bring more players into the "normal" camps in the near future.
And the last 2 months were the BEST months in the 2.5 years history of this game.

We are ALL interested in helping this along! What could we players do to support you? Maybe...oh I don't know, click on some advertisements?

slapshot wrote:We are ALL interested in helping this along! What could we players do to support you?

You are doing a great job.
Most of the browser based games are almost dead 6-12 months after their release.
Hopeless 2 is still growing after 2.5 years!
Here is the Top10 countries (Google ranking) on october-november 2011 (1.5 million players):
1) USA
2) Russia
3) Turkey
4) Philippines
5) Thailand
6) Denmark
7) Germany
8) Canada
9) Sweden
10) United Kingdom

Remus wrote:

slapshot wrote:We are ALL interested in helping this along! What could we players do to support you?

You are doing a great job.
Most of the browser based games are almost dead 6-12 months after their release.
Hopeless 2 is still growing after 2.5 years!
Here is the Top10 countries (Google ranking) on october-november 2011 (1.5 million players):
1) USA
2) Russia
3) Turkey
4) Philippines
5) Thailand
6) Denmark
7) Germany
8) Canada
9) Sweden
10) United Kingdom

wow we ranked #1

My dear Einstein,
The purpose of this update was more balanced gameplay.
More than 95% of the daily players are unregistered.
They like ABC (50%), NCY (25%) and SMC (15%).
The registered players like NCY.
Why?
It's obvious: fast frags and good FPS value.

I'm not interested in forcing the players to play a certain map.
The 12th map is on the way btw. I'm interested in 2 things:
1) to bring more players into the game
2) to bring more players into the "normal" camps in the near future.
And the last 2 months were the BEST months in the 2.5 years history of this game.

Do you propose to me to play as unregistered player? I think those players just come and go. Only few of them stick around to play the game like I did. I was collecting my points to buy my first pro pack for a couple of months. I played all camps but most of the time I played in Mercenery Camp. This is a big camp too. But this was the challange for me to kill some top level player just to earn the points needed to collect pro weapons. In big camps you can develope your tactics and style while in small camps is just chip and charge (more points if you are bad conn or cheater). I thought they banned the bull fighting nowdays
And one last thing THANK YOU for the compliment (Einstein)

Because Kiren is bugging me all the time with "where is my gift?"
here is a dev screenshot (alpha stage) of the upcoming 12th map: As usual, 10,000 points to that one who "decodes" the map codename: TGY

Remus wrote:Because Kiren is bugging me all the time with "where is my gift?"
here is a dev screenshot (alpha stage) of the upcoming 12th map:

TGY_alpha.jpg

As usual, 10,000 points to that one who "decodes" the map codename: TGY

Very cool!


The Grave Yard?
The Green Yogurt?

slapshot wrote:Very cool!

The Grave Yard?

OMG.
Steve got the bonus.
The contest is closed.

Remus wrote:

slapshot wrote:Very cool!

The Grave Yard?

OMG.
Steve got the bonus.
The contest is closed.

In 10 minutes flat!?! And I was about to post "The Yearning Goldfish" because I HAD NO IDEA! I am so bloody brilliant!

TGY
So as the longest serving player still active do I finally get a tombstone with my name on it?

Remus wrote:Because Kiren is bugging me all the time with "where is my gift?"
here is a dev screenshot (alpha stage) of the upcoming 12th map:

TGY_alpha.jpg

As usual, 10,000 points to that one who "decodes" the map codename: TGY

Yes , my princess, bugg him more

Scrappitt wrote:TGY
So as the longest serving player still active do I finally get a tombstone with my name on it?

Call it "Final Destination 12" if you like.

Clear the browser cache and reload the game.
I had to fix a bug related to both shotguns.

p.s.
I'm really sorry you cannot use the new button in the maps selector.
But the current version is not quite v2.45

wtf STEVE! let us think too you intellect hogger!

ZeronMan wrote:wtf STEVE! let us think too you intellect hogger!

slapshot the great GURU!!!

profesorhr wrote:

ZeronMan wrote:wtf STEVE! let us think too you intellect hogger!

slapshot the great GURU!!!

I was in the right place at the right time my friends.

v2.46

The 12th map has been included: The GraveYard (codenamed TGY).
Crazy action on multiple layers (including underground and roofs). Have fun.