Hopeless 2 Forum

deamuel wrote:i just ask why dragon_negro was still on the list of bonus we all know that he not play anymore in game just asking.

Lenny wrote: Lenny & Slapshot have asked to be removed from the Bonus list. This is so we are seen to be trying to be as fair as possible.

slapshot wrote:To prove that we are trying to be fair to all players including Turkish players, I am hereby voluntarily requesting that my Bonus be removed.

freekarol wrote:I will think of it too. But I have these questions:
1.Why do we have the bonus camp > clean camp? You know, when everyone will give up bonus, who will play there?

2.Who will decide which moderator can get bonus again? Moderators? Then you can again expect comments about being unfair.

3.When will it stop? Now it's bonus. Then it can be elite. And what will be next? Should we negotiate with internet terrorists?

All good questions!
1. I obviously will not be able to participate in this. OR, another type of camp would have to be created

2. Other players would be my first suggestion. For example, at least 3 votes (+/-) from other Bonus holders.

3. It stops here. Elite can be issued by the big cheese (Remus), or other Elite holders by vote. The criteria for such is simple and easy. Being Elite grants no additional enhancements of armor, precision, etc. So I don't believe that it's something that is being contested on a regular basis.

But the Bonus is long since been a point of contention by other players (many Turkish players as well). It's origin was to help balance the bad connection of other countries to the good connection countries. It was a possible "fix" to the "immortal" issue. We all know that the issue is still present and that the only real solution is an additional server near Germany. Two years ago is was suggested that players contribute for the expense of a new server. But many "good conn" players felt that they should not have to contribute $ as their connection was already solid. So it never came to fruition.

Personally, if the connections were all balanced, I would like to see the Bonus as an accolade that players could earn by good sportsmanship, good contribution to the community, for bringing and welcoming new players to this game, and most importantly, boosting the advertising that helps pay for this game. We all need to keep in mind, Remus charges absolutely nothing for a player to join a wonderful community and to enjoy a simple, but one of the most fantastic and addicting games I've ever experienced!

So take a moment once in a while to click on one or two of the advertisements and see what is being offered. The advertisers will benefit, they will pay for more exposure, and then Remus will benefit. Down the line, we all will benefit.

So in short freekarol, please with the nonsense remarks.

freekarol wrote:I will think of it too.

Lenny wrote:I have been receiving many comments about my connection not being very good.
With the Spain server. My ping is always 79.
I have a good PC, I play in full screen & 3rd person.
I have 4 years experience.
And I try to use my 4 years experience tactically.

Maybe I have a bad connection or maybe I have adjusted better to the changes (crows = stamina + health, chickens = stamina + ammo)in this game.


Remus please remove me from the Bonus List.
I guess I don't need it.

manga wrote:Remus and other executives I lenny chin I'm tired I think I do not deserve bonuses he does not die I do not have such a problem When he hit me I always sign it ???????????? also several times I got the armor beginner camp against him Why are you taking so he asked I said my decision it has made the problem I say 2 hours I'm tired of this situation my bonus - the elite - triple undo Add to lenny (double bonus lenny) also you a short note remus such managers (lenny)players from the game They're cool but After this game I frag 300000 I do not think playing for now I'm tired because of these issues Is there anything open in the middle I'm playing this game for 5 years and lenny always against me I could not love a kind of whereas that in 5 years I I've always respected him I tried to be savvy but I'm tired endure every human being There is a limit I do not want someone to Remus (elit-bonus-triple) take it all back lenny feel at ease About this talk If I disrespected remus and administrators against sorry (lenny) excluding

slapshot wrote:And I think this brings us back full circle. Vets in beginners camps use vet tactics when other vets are present. The beginners suffer because of our presence in the camps. We all know this. If there are more vets than beginners, why are we in the beginners camps?

If a player wants to use armor, he has the right.

But we should all stay out of beginners camps. Especially with the skills our 100,000 frags bring us.

P.S. Not trying to exclude myself here, I should also stay out of beginners camps.

Lenny wrote:manga, I try 5 or 6 times to kill you, but you didn't die.
I type in chat "?"
You type "armor"
I type "why use Armor in beginners"
I type "you have the best gun, you have the bonus, so why use armor in beginners"
I type "give the new players a chance"
The next thing I know is
You type "you Turk fazist"
Should manga be offended, or should Lenny be offended



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freekarol wrote:

manga wrote:Remus and other executives I lenny chin I'm tired I think I do not deserve bonuses he does not die I do not have such a problem When he hit me I always sign it ???????????? also several times I got the armor beginner camp against him Why are you taking so he asked I said my decision it has made the problem I say 2 hours I'm tired of this situation my bonus - the elite - triple undo Add to lenny (double bonus lenny) also you a short note remus such managers (lenny)players from the game They're cool but After this game I frag 300000 I do not think playing for now I'm tired because of these issues Is there anything open in the middle I'm playing this game for 5 years and lenny always against me I could not love a kind of whereas that in 5 years I I've always respected him I tried to be savvy but I'm tired endure every human being There is a limit I do not want someone to Remus (elit-bonus-triple) take it all back lenny feel at ease About this talk If I disrespected remus and administrators against sorry (lenny) excluding

I asked you why you use armor. You didn't reply... Just realize this:when some veterans say it's not ok to use armor in beginners camps and some veterans will do that, what others will think? When we say that beginner camps and free for all are about fighting all against all and then you can see that some players don't do that, what lesson others will learn? They will do that too...

manga wrote:Have you wonder if he also immortal manga

general48 wrote:

manga wrote:Have you wonder if he also immortal manga

abi biraz sakin ol

manga wrote:

general48 wrote:

manga wrote:Have you wonder if he also immortal manga

abi biraz sakin ol

gelde sen sakin ol kendi bağı bok gibi bana çamur atıyor

Lenny wrote:My sign was "?"
If you are tired of "?"
Then why did you ask for the Bonus

general48 wrote:

manga wrote:

general48 wrote:
abi biraz sakin ol :cheers

gelde sen sakin ol kendi bağı bok gibi bana çamur atıyor

bizi bıraktırdılar sıra sende :))

manga wrote:Remus and other executives I lenny chin I'm tired I think I do not deserve bonuses he does not die I do not have such a problem When he hit me I always sign it ???????????? also several times I got the armor beginner camp against him Why are you taking so he asked I said my decision it has made the problem I say 2 hours I'm tired of this situation my bonus - the elite - triple undo Add to lenny (double bonus lenny) also you a short note remus such managers (lenny)players from the game They're cool but After this game I frag 300000 I do not think playing for now I'm tired because of these issues Is there anything open in the middle I'm playing this game for 5 years and lenny always against me I could not love a kind of whereas that in 5 years I I've always respected him I tried to be savvy but I'm tired endure every human being There is a limit I do not want someone to Remus (elit-bonus-triple) take it all back lenny feel at ease About this talk If I disrespected remus and administrators against sorry (lenny) excluding :evil :sad :sad

manga wrote:I know very well the rules of this game armor, of course, be wrong to use for beginners but I've used only difficult because you're dying I do not understand why this issue has grown so much

Lenny wrote:manga, I try 5 or 6 times to kill you, but you didn't die.
I type in chat "?"
You type "armor"
I type "why use Armor in beginners"
I type "you have the best gun, you have the bonus, so why use armor in beginners"
I type "give the new players a chance"
The next thing I know is
You type "you Turk fazist"
Should manga be offended, or should Lenny be offended



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Lenny wrote:

manga wrote:I know very well the rules of this game armor, of course, be wrong to use for beginners but I've used only difficult because you're dying I do not understand why this issue has grown so much

supreme wrote:?

Lenny wrote:

supreme wrote:?

You should be very careful when you use a question mark.
The next thing you know your being called a fascist or infidel.

Jennifer wrote:Im really sorry if I offended you or anyone I have cursed at.It won't happen again I'm really sorry...

onurkral wrote:I want to apply for the Bonus. I think my connection is good.

onurkral wrote:I want to apply for the Bonus. I think my connection is good.

onurkral wrote:I want to apply for the Bonus. I think my connection is good.

onurkral wrote:I want to apply for the Bonus. I think my connection is good.

onurkral wrote:I want to apply for the Bonus. I think my connection is good.

slapshot wrote: We would like to hear votes from other bonus holders on this request.

We all know that many connections from Turkey are less than optimal. The speed test provided shows the connection speed (ping) to another server within Turkey. However, some connections in Turkey are better than others. And sometimes, a player may receive the Bonus for other reasons, such as being a good contributor to community, honesty, etc.

To be clear: When the Bonus was originally created, the intent was to provide an extra measure of fairness to those who have excellent connection quality against players who displayed "immortal" connections. These "immortals" were in several countries and not just Turkey. Since the default server has been set to Spain, it has improved somewhat. But as we all know, it is still prevalent.

With that understanding, please provide us with opinions and votes.

deamuel wrote:perhaps not so bad to indulge you catch onurkral request,i know hard to provide the basis for bonus because the bonus is getting a proper connection.but you also may withdrawn if ever it is necessary,only my opinion it is in the hands the decision of the moderators

We have at least one positive remark. (I'm not sure how to perceive onomuno's remark.)
Please, we DO need to hear from others on this matter as well.