Hopeless 2 Forum

I'm gonna throw this out there. It's one thing if you open and camp and decide to build up 4 or 5 Deadly Strikes while you wait for others to join. But it's quite another to deliberately build up 50 or 60 and then just continually use them on a full camp.

I have witnessed luptatorul87 do this on many occasions and I for one, am getting very tired of this show of poor sportsmanship. The DS was created to level the field when faced with a camp full of bad connection players. But now is being used by some to simply generate frags.

How about you just play without for a while and give some of the newer players a chance?

To me, there is no sport or fun whatsoever in this kind of play.

Just my humble opinion

Maybe the maximum DS you can have at any one time should be set to 5.

It could be disabled in beginners/teams camp.
Also my question is when you guys don't like to use this DS then whats its use?
Remus, please allow us to set the DS keys as I always mistakenly press r key while fighting and don't relaize unless i see on screen saying deadly strike used by supreme :(
And players get mad, leave the camp (I hate them for this ) and dont play free teams :(

Lenny wrote:Maybe the maximum DS you can have at any one time should be set to 5.

supreme wrote:It could be disabled in beginners/teams camp.

I'm waiting for votes on this subject.

Though,i m not a regular player,but i agree with this opinion...I mean,there

should be limit on DS value(number) unless,a defined number of players doesnt

join the camp...For eg.one can use max 2 DS,if there r around 4 players,and

with increase in number of players,this value will automatically set(increase)...

And even i faced the massacre of DS+mines used by Lapu (player mentioned by

Slapshot) and mines+armour used by Alianza...

I would also like to add that,if possible other than camp owner,players should

hav the power to disable DS...

Remus wrote:

Lenny wrote:Maybe the maximum DS you can have at any one time should be set to 5.

supreme wrote:It could be disabled in beginners/teams camp.

I'm waiting for votes on this subject.

Now these are both very plausible remedies! I concur with both!

Ruskin wrote:I would also like to add that,if possible other than camp owner,players should

hav the power to disable DS...

Another great solution!
Maybe this should be added to the "Items off" command? But then again, it's usually the camp owner that has all of the D.S...

supreme wrote:It could be disabled in beginners/teams camp.
Also my question is when you guys don't like to use this DS then whats its use?

I've heard other senior players say in free for all "Hey, no DS!".
But for someone with less than 5000 frags in a camp full of vets? It's good to see them get one up on us once in a while! I want them to feel like they can compete against the Pro-Package holders. It's what gives them incentive to stay in the game.

So no, I don't want to do away with the DS. Just see that it gets used in a more mature manner.

Sgt_Saunders wrote:Ruskin my friend, having the ability to turn off the DS when opening up a camp similar as when we can use the Items off command if we open up a camp is not a bad idea. But the problem here is when a player opens a camp, closes it to other players while he or she is building up there DS's, than opening up the camp and unsuspecting players come into the camp to play than have little to know chance to defend themselves. I personally think having some limits on how many any player can carry at one time might be the way to go. So for instance, if we can only carry 5 DS's at a time than nobody can have any advantages. Think about it did you every try to go crow hunting when a camp is full and KAOS is all around you with players shooting each other in a Wild Wild West fashion. I believe Remus has it right, lets have other weigh in on this subject, than I am sure the powers to be will come up with a solution. Perfect or not, which every the solution I am sure it will stem the practice.

Well stated!

and one last thing, luptatorul87 I have absolutely no problems personally with you. You have a great attitude and I want nothing but peace and understanding between us. You've reached out to me a couple of times for "friendship" which I wholeheartedly accept!

slapshot wrote:

supreme wrote:It could be disabled in beginners/teams camp.
Also my question is when you guys don't like to use this DS then whats its use?

I've heard other senior players say in free for all "Hey, no DS!".
But for someone with less than 5000 frags in a camp full of vets? It's good to see them get one up on us once in a while! I want them to feel like they can compete against the Pro-Package holders. It's what gives them incentive to stay in the game.

So no, I don't want to do away with the DS. Just see that it gets used in a more mature manner.

Although I don't use DS so much because I can't kill crow I waste more bullets on crow rather than on some player. And this DS crow always distract me and I end up in getting killed.
I don't have any problem with mines, DS even though I don't use or don't care. But I don't like to see the rules set by pro players that hey no DS, no mines. At that moment I feel like saying then Remus should not give this feature when you cannot try to use strategy. If opponents use DS, then you can use too and mines in same fashion. The only difference is some are rats who takes advantage.
So, I agree that set a limit to keep certain number of DS.

supreme wrote: Although I don't use DS so much because I can't kill crow I waste more bullets on crow rather than on some player. And this DS crow always distract me and I end up in getting killed.
I don't have any problem with mines, DS even though I don't use or don't care. But I don't like to see the rules set by pro players that hey no DS, no mines. At that moment I feel like saying then Remus should not give this feature when you cannot try to use strategy. If opponents use DS, then you can use too and mines in same fashion. The only difference is some are rats who takes advantage.
So, I agree that set a limit to keep certain number of DS.

I too get caught up in shooting the crow for sport! It is especially fun with Topz007 to try to shoot this vermin with the RPG! Maybe we'll open a camp just for this reason!

Many good points bye all

Simply put;
Is there any plausible reason why anyone really needs more than 5 DS at one time

If the answer is no, then limiting the number is a good idea. In fact 5 DS even seems overly generous, 3 should be plenty because you can constantly replenish them as you play anyway.

DS: Bad connection have players appeared to hit more easily.

But many people are using unnecessary.

I think the DS should be removed from the game.

luptatorul87
I love his game concept.
He has good attitude & Good player.
But He had/has/will has DS

my opinion:
turn off the DS's in matches and freematch fields.
Ds limit's fields to 5 or 7.
I've seen in these fields, a player an open field, accumulating a lot of ds's, and use them in those entering the field.

Topz007 wrote:my opinion:
turn off the DS's in matches and freematch fields.
Ds limit's fields to 5 or 7.
I've seen in these fields, a player an open field, accumulating a lot of ds's, and use them in those entering the field.

Always read the announcements first of all.
http://www.infdat.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... &start=282" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

In team matches, it's up to the teams if they want to use DS or not.

Remus wrote:

Topz007 wrote:my opinion:
turn off the DS's in matches and freematch fields.
Ds limit's fields to 5 or 7.
I've seen in these fields, a player an open field, accumulating a lot of ds's, and use them in those entering the field.

Always read the announcements first of all.
http://www.infdat.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... &start=282" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

In team matches, it's up to the teams if they want to use DS or not.

I know, but, it does not always happen.
it is the agreement and freematches matches, playing without ds, but always have a player who disobeys the rules. uses the ds that accumulates during the game.

Topz007 wrote:I know, but, it does not always happen.
it is the agreement and freematches matches, playing without ds, but always have a player who disobeys the rules. uses the ds that accumulates during the game.

In case of broken agreement, just kick him out of camp.
You have the power (and the right) to do that.

Topz007 wrote:my opinion:
turn off the DS's in matches and freematch fields.
Ds limit's fields to 5 or 7.
I've seen in these fields, a player an open field, accumulating a lot of ds's, and use them in those entering the field.

I know already I am not very well accepted in this game.
And my opinion and nothing is the same thing.
But it will limit the number of DS, so it's best to delete DS game.
I accumulate DS but I'm playing fields. And as I no longer have any power in the game, players use to get that I do not like the field.

Kinho40 wrote:I know already I am not very well accepted in this game.
And my opinion and nothing is the same thing.
But it will limit the number of DS, so it's best to delete DS game.
I accumulate DS but I'm playing fields. And as I no longer have any power in the game, players use to get that I do not like the field.

You are better accepted than you think my friend!
But yes, some people abused the DS so, a limit has been set. But then, a player of your skills, you never needed the DS anyway!

slapshot wrote:

Kinho40 wrote:I know already I am not very well accepted in this game.
And my opinion and nothing is the same thing.
But it will limit the number of DS, so it's best to delete DS game.
I accumulate DS but I'm playing fields. And as I no longer have any power in the game, players use to get that I do not like the field.

You are better accepted than you think my friend!
But yes, some people abused the DS so, a limit has been set. But then, a player of your skills, you never needed the DS anyway!

You are mistaken, my friend, there are few people who like myself in this game.
But on the issue of DS. As now I do not have any power in this game, to take the players that bother me in the game, and you know very well that there are many, I use the DS I get up during the time I'm on the map. I think we should not only not.

how can some one save that many ds I get bored after shooting 2 to 3 ds

Remus wrote:

Lenny wrote:Maybe the maximum DS you can have at any one time should be set to 5.

supreme wrote:It could be disabled in beginners/teams camp.

I'm waiting for votes on this subject.

yeah ok i vote up to 5 ds