Hopeless 3

Post by **Remus** » 20 Oct 2010, 11:14

I'm waiting for over 3 years the day when Adobe will fix the bugs and update SW3D.
SW3D is a great piece of work, but its 3D engine is 10 years old!
I think it's time to move on.
I started to port the game on Unity3D.
What you should expect: better image quality and increased level of detail.
I cannot estimate the release date of the first beta, so don't ask.

Until then, here is a benchmark of the SMC map in Unity3D:

http://www.infdat.com/unity3d/SMC.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

- the SMC map in evening-night mode
- WSAD, Cursor keys, Space, MouseLook enabled (you need to click on the stage).
- Ageia PhysX (now we can enable a few vehicles

)
- lighting and shadows (also check out the castle).

Post by **supreme** » 20 Oct 2010, 11:43

Remus wrote:I'm waiting for over 3 years the day when Adobe will fix the bugs and update SW3D.
SW3D is a great piece of work, but its 3D engine is 10 years old!
I think it's time to move on.
I started to port the game on Unity3D.
What you should expect: better image quality and increased level of detail.
I cannot estimate the release date of the first beta, so don't ask.
Until then, here is a benchmark of the SMC map in Unity3D:

http://www.infdat.com/unity3d/SMC.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

- the SMC map in evening-night mode
- WSAD, Cursor keys, Space, MouseLook enabled (you need to click on the stage).
- Ageia PhysX (now we can enable a few vehicles )
- lighting and shadows (also check out the castle).

Castle look so cool ;), i enjoyed .. the only problem i had was fps dropping in the castle and fps was variable.. 50,42, 37,32.. and ot of castle it was mostly 64-63

besides fps, i like this change.. hehe :)

Post by **Remus** » 20 Oct 2010, 13:53

supreme wrote:Castle look so cool ;), i enjoyed .. the only problem i had was fps dropping in the castle and fps was variable.. 50,42, 37,32.. and ot of castle it was mostly 64-63

besides fps, i like this change.. hehe :)

The purpose of a benchmark (nothing optimized) is to see the FPS variation (where and how much) on slower machines.
In this case, 64 FPS is the max theoretical value.

Post by **Milan** » 20 Oct 2010, 14:13

Great

I love it!
My FPS was 93 everywhere

Post by **Scrappitt** » 20 Oct 2010, 14:15

64 everywhere!

But of course that is without anybody else in camp bringing it down

Post by **gcool101** » 20 Oct 2010, 14:51

64 everywhere .....

Post by **turk_asker** » 20 Oct 2010, 15:36

100 everywhere...

Post by **Remus** » 20 Oct 2010, 15:39

turk_asker wrote:100 everywhere...

Speedhack in a benchmark?
:smash:

Post by **Timberwolf** » 20 Oct 2010, 17:52

Speedhack in a benchmark?

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously?

Talk about a bad omen!

Post by **mucaht** » 20 Oct 2010, 18:57

My fps 94-96 and very bad game

Post by **gktufb** » 20 Oct 2010, 18:58

remus
bazi şeyler
ekleyin

Post by **mucaht** » 20 Oct 2010, 19:02

Remus what time guns and mans coming?

Post by **Remus** » 20 Oct 2010, 19:08

mucaht wrote:My fps 94-96 and very bad game

This is not a game.
:smash:

mucaht wrote:Remus what time guns and mans coming?

Remus wrote:I cannot estimate the release date of the first beta, so don't ask.

Post by **Remus** » 20 Oct 2010, 19:55

Now the max. rendering speed should be really locked to 64 FPS.
Please retest and share the following informations:
medium FPS value / OS / browser / processor / graphics card.

Post by **John_H** » 20 Oct 2010, 20:12

I had 100 in the first test and 67 in 2nd, runs very smooth, looks great, i run explorer 8 with windows 7 Cpu Pentium T4400(2.20 Ghz) x2 (dual core) Nvidia GeForce With cuda 310M...did i forget something?

Post by **Remus** » 20 Oct 2010, 20:15

John_H wrote:I had 100 in the first test and 67 in 2nd, runs very smooth, looks great, i run explorer 8 with windows 7 Cpu Pentium T4400(2.20 Ghz) x2 (dual core) Nvidia GeForce With cuda 310M...did i forget something?

Thanks for infos. Very good results.
Did you clear the browser cache in the past 15 minutes?
If not, please do it, retest and tell me the FPS.

Post by **Scrappitt** » 20 Oct 2010, 20:36

mostly 30-32 but some flashes of 60ish
computer : Sinclair spectrum 48k+
Processor : burnt out ages ago
Graphics card : full 1980's spec with 8-color capabilities
(well its the equivilant to my home laptop anyway)

Post by **Remus** » 20 Oct 2010, 20:39

Scrappitt wrote:mostly 30-32 but some flashes of 60ish

Do you get 30-32 inside the castle too?
Or less?

Post by **John_H** » 20 Oct 2010, 20:45

Yes i cleared the cache and got inside the castle, up and all around the camp and i got the same value...67 dropping sometimes at 66

Post by **Remus** » 20 Oct 2010, 20:48

John_H wrote:Yes i cleared the cache and got inside the castle, up and all around the camp and i got the same value...67 dropping sometimes at 66

So you got (64 + 5%) all the time.
Thanks for info.

Post by **John_H** » 20 Oct 2010, 20:54

Remus wrote:
John_H wrote:Yes i cleared the cache and got inside the castle, up and all around the camp and i got the same value...67 dropping sometimes at 66
So you got (64 + 5%) all the time.
Thanks for info.

It's a real bad thing?

Post by **Scrappitt** » 20 Oct 2010, 20:59

Remus wrote:
Scrappitt wrote:mostly 30-32 but some flashes of 60ish
Do you get 30-32 inside the castle too?
Or less?

In the castle in went to a minimum of 22 but mostly 27-32

Post by **Remus** » 20 Oct 2010, 21:06

John_H wrote:It's a real bad thing?

Except the inaccurate FPS control in Unity3D (probably a bug), it's not bad at all.
You'll get a better image quality and the best FPS value.

Scrappitt wrote:In the castle in went to a minimum of 22 but mostly 27-32

So 27-32 in the castle and 30-32 in the other areas.
Simon, double check the monitor (Screen) refresh rate.
Be sure it's set above 60Hz.

Post by **turk_asker** » 20 Oct 2010, 21:10

Remus wrote:
turk_asker wrote:100 everywhere...
Speedhack in a benchmark?

No My computer is very good
Core 2 Duo
4GB Ram
1GB Screen Card
Windows 7 Ultimate (XP+Vista=Windows 7)
2.34GHz

Post by **turk_asker** » 20 Oct 2010, 21:11

Will there be a Hopeless 3 ?

Post by **anikilador** » 20 Oct 2010, 21:14

muy bueno el juego remus hahah ya me estan preocupando los frags jajaj
de nuevo empezaremos de "0" frags?
oh esta base de datos si es compatible?

Post by **Scrappitt** » 20 Oct 2010, 21:26

Remus wrote:Simon, double check the monitor (Screen) refresh rate.
Be sure it's set above 60Hz.

I only have the one option of 60Hz

Post by **Remus** » 20 Oct 2010, 21:31

anikilador wrote:muy bueno el juego remus hahah ya me estan preocupando los frags jajaj
de nuevo empezaremos de "0" frags?
oh esta base de datos si es compatible?

You will start from MINUS 36323 frags.

Simon, John
Please clear the browser cache again and retest.
I've made some changes and now I allow 75 FPS.
However, all my computers are still locked to 64 FPS (inside & outside the castle).

Obviously, everything runs extremely smooth here.

Post by **Scrappitt** » 20 Oct 2010, 21:48

Quite steady 26 in the castle now but I have just been playing in EGY so my laptop might be a little warm.
Outside its about 38

Post by **John_H** » 20 Oct 2010, 21:51

Simon, John
Please clear the browser cache again and retest.
I've made some changes and now I allow 75 FPS.
However, all my computers are still locked to 64 FPS (inside & outside the castle).

Obviously, everything runs extremely smooth here.

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Now i have 77 dropping down to 70 but no significant change from in or out the castle, more drops of fps value near the fence looking the camp but for less then 1 sec behind the warehouse. In the castle it's 77 to 73 everywere and always looking up and down to see if any thing changes the fps value

Post by **Remus** » 20 Oct 2010, 21:55

Scrappitt wrote:Quite steady 26 in the castle now but I have just been playing in EGY so my laptop might be a little warm.
Outside its about 38

John_H wrote:Now i have 77 dropping down to 70 but no significant change from in or out the castle, more drops of fps value near the fence looking the camp but for less then 1 sec behind the warehouse. In the castle it's 77 to 73 everywere and always looking up and down to see if any thing changes the fps value

p.s.
Simon, talk to Josh.
John_H is not a cheater.
He is our overclocker.

Post by **Syryne** » 20 Oct 2010, 22:03

i like it specialy with the lighting

my fps were most of the time betwen 96-100 in the first test even in the castle
but they dropped to 77 after a second test
another thing is tht u can't jump through windows

anyway i run EI 7 with vista
processor Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7200
graphic card radeon X16500 series
.... tht's all

Post by **anikilador** » 20 Oct 2010, 22:03

Remus wrote:You will start from MINUS 36323 frags.

y será alojado en el mismo servidor?

creo que si hahaha

Post by **Lenny** » 20 Oct 2010, 22:10

30/40 in castle
40/70 in field
wide range 28/70
up and down all the time

Everything seemed very smooth and fast

as you know I'm a Mac user.

Post by **Remus** » 20 Oct 2010, 22:17

So far:
- all my computers (XP + IE6 / FireFox 3.6) are locked on 64 FPS
- John_H (Win7 + IE8) and Syryne (Vista + IE7) get around 77 FPS
- Simon (Spectrum Sinclair) gets 26-38 FPS
- Lenny (MAC) gets 40-70

Post by **supreme** » 20 Oct 2010, 22:47

PC Spec:
Intel Core 2 Duo
E6750 @ 2.66GHz
1GB Ram
Intel(R) GMA 3100 , 384MB

IE 6: 37/73 , 37-49 (covered castle ) , 50-69+ open castle, in open field i was able to get 73 many times but value kept on varying

FF 3.6: 36/72 few times 73
Speed directly proportional to fps .. hehe

ps: i set refresh rate 85Hz from 60 Hz

Post by **Remus** » 20 Oct 2010, 23:01

supreme wrote:IE 6: 37/73 , 37-49 (covered castle ) , 50-69+ open castle, in open field i was able to get 73 many times but value kept on varying
FF 3.6: 36/72 few times 73

For the onboard Intel GMA 3100 is not bad at all.

Post by **Topz007** » 21 Oct 2010, 07:56

i got fps 73 all the time, (sure, just alone),, hehehe

Post by **Remus** » 21 Oct 2010, 08:28

Topz007 wrote:i got fps 73 all the time, (sure, just alone),, hehehe

Post by **ulubatli** » 21 Oct 2010, 10:24

Mine is PC spec:
Intel Core 2 Quad CPU
Q 8200@ 2.33 GHz
3,00 GB RAM
IE/8
What can I do then?

Post by **Milan** » 21 Oct 2010, 11:11

ulubatli wrote: Mine is PC spec:
Intel Core 2 Quad CPU
Q 8200@ 2.33 GHz
3,00 GB RAM
IE/8
What can I do then?

You will always be dumb and g y

Look first Remus post, there you have a link to see your FPS in "new" SMC and tell us your results

Post by **ulubatli** » 21 Oct 2010, 11:17

Milan wrote:
ulubatli wrote: Mine is PC spec:
Intel Core 2 Quad CPU
Q 8200@ 2.33 GHz
3,00 GB RAM
IE/8
What can I do then?
You will always be dumb and g y
Look first Remus post, there you have a link to see your FPS in "new" SMC and tell us your results

hahahahahaha

ok ok don' be so much angry if not,
u will die as a young g y

Post by **ZeronMan** » 21 Oct 2010, 23:11

you guys are lucky, i only get 26fps empty:(

Post by **unescaped** » 22 Oct 2010, 02:21

Que bien hehe espero que en este nuevo juego me puedas
cambiar el username hahaha
ntc Remus
perdon por fastidiar

xD

Post by **Kinho40** » 22 Oct 2010, 13:29

Congratulations Remus.

The image of the field was great.

Windows XP Professional SP2 + IE7

Dual-core Pentium E5400 CPU @ 270GHz
4GB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce 9400 GT

In my first test the FPS everywhere stood at 73.

Once I cleared the cache he was everywhere in 64.

Post by **Remus** » 22 Oct 2010, 13:36

Kinho40 wrote:Congratulations Remus.
The image of the field was great.

Windows XP Professional SP2 + IE7
Dual-core Pentium E5400 CPU @ 270GHz
4GB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce 9400 GT

In my first test the FPS everywhere stood at 73.
Once I cleared the cache he was everywhere in 64.

Excellent results Marcos!
Anything above 40 FPS is very good for a browser based game.
"Locked to 64" provides the smoothest motion.
Above 64 FPS ... just great, but you won't feel any difference.

Post by **arapahoe** » 22 Oct 2010, 18:42

Mi pregunta es ¿porque no puedo entrar?

Post by **Remus** » 22 Oct 2010, 18:45

arapahoe wrote:Mi pregunta es ¿porque no puedo entrar?

See this topic: http://www.infdat.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1298" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Post by **anikilador** » 22 Oct 2010, 21:43

hay timber lo que tus deseos han llegado a crear hahaha
aver si despues no te andas quejando amigo.. ok?? espero que
seas feliz en ese camp mode

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

soy feliz solamente cuando tengo gusto del pene grande, porque soy maricon

Post by **zesuga** » 23 Oct 2010, 15:20

My FPS is 77
my pc hmm
AMD X5200+ . That is old. isn't it?
Dram 8Gb . Build in VGA ATI-3100.
I will upgrade CPU to Phenom II X4-965. VGA to ATI -4670 1Gb
That is for Milan. Prepare to die, U Bitch!
and 3D? what's the difference? Should I wear 3D glasses when i play?